Does anyone agree with me that the masturbation scene was a little gross and tacky? I mean, i'd be embarrassed to watch this other wise perfectly nice film with my parents on account of this one scene. I was majorly dissapointed by that. Holler at me and tell me if i'm out of line...:)
shareWhat is wrong with masturbation anyway ??? What is gross about it ???
Pleasure ???
Have fun
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That's funny! Hopefully she won't think of you as her pervert grandson.
shareI thought it was a little wierd at first because I didn't expect it, but I thought it was kinda sweet. I loved the film by the way.
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yes but it serves to give the 2 an emotional bond that helps save their relationship at the end of the film. I do agree with you folks in that its embrassing to watch with parents etc but they dont actually show that much, when i wqtched it last i found it more amusing than sexy or anything!
shareI think it was a good scene.
sharei think it was a great scene, sexy and a bit funny, wouldn't mind doing that with a person i like, but it would be a bit wierd though, hehe...
Plus Ben Chapling was kind of irresistible...
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It's a bit awkward to watch with family members, but other than that I feel it probably was necessary to some extent. If they had just been "talking" talking on the phone without it eventually moving into the bedroom, then Brian would probably have had an easier time just letting Abby go, because he could think, "well it's not like we actually DID anything." No one really forgives someone for such a severe degree of lying/concealing the truth just because they make a good tuna sandwich, unless they're Joey on Friends, who would do pretty much anything for a sandwich. But because the phone sex took it to such an intimate, personal level, a connection formed between them that was that much harder to break, so Brian had a more difficult time trying to forget about Abby, which ultimately resulted in their getting together.
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Oh c'mon! You're not actually telling me you thought that that masturbation scene was graphic?? please! It was badly done I agree but wasn't graphic!
I just thought it was pointless for the plotline of the film.
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I don't feel the masturbation scene is tacky at all. It shows another way of Brian and Abby getting closer together without physically being together. That - and many other things - is one of the reasons Brian falls in love with the real Abby, and not Noelle's face. Fair enough, watching with parents can be embarrasing, but without it, I feel it would miss out a vital part of the story, because it clearly brings them closer together.
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I didn't think this scene was tacky at all. They didnt't show anything; they didn't even make sounds. I don't understand what the fuss is about, really. I thought it was a sweet, relatively innocent and interestingly original way to exhibit the two primary characters' developing bond: nothing more, nothing less.
You've got to be kidding me. I would've accepted it if you thought the scene was badly done (even though I loved it), but to say it's tacky? Like you found it graphic? Come on!
I'm glad movies have scenes like that in them because it paints a more realistic picture of a relationship. Movies like this one, movies that are supposed to reflect the time we live in and relationships between young people, have to also revolve around sex. It doesn't have to be all about it, but if it's left out, it becomes too silly. Most adults have sex, and most adults masturbate. Movies that pretend like those things don't exist, do nothing for me.
I loved the scene simply because it was honest, nice and realistic. It didn't hurt that I found it hot either. Maybe it wasn't totally necessary for the story, but it helped in bringing the two of them closer together. The film scored some extra points with me for having such an intimate scene in it.
And calling masturbation tacky? I guess you're doing something wrong then.
I don't think it was a very sweet moment because of the fact that Ben Chaplin's character still thinks Noelle is Abby, so really he's thinking about Uma Thurman rather than Janeane Garofalo.
Loved the movie though.
'nothing that a rooftop and an AK47 won't fix'
I agree with you there, Rob. I also thought about that, but then again he knows it was her when he forgives her so it still was something nice the two of them shared. Sort of.
shareYou're kidding, right? Movies without sex are silly? I would really have to disagree there.
To stick to the main point though, I didn't necessarily think it was tacky, but it definitely doesn't make for easy viewing with parents. I did like how they mentioned it in the very end, but overall I think the awkward factor would decrease greatly (and the movie would suffer none) if the scene were left out.
He said it's all in your head, and I said, so's everything--
But he didnt get it.
I thought it was funny. the ending was funny also.
shareI loved the scene. I was 23 at the time and I thought it was the sweetest thing.
shareThat's ok - I had my grandmother watch Goodbye Lenon. Watch that movie and wait for the porn scene they sneak in.
sharei found it.. well, its a little hard to sit thru with another person because its about sex.. but it makes the ending funnier. the whole "i'm pregnant..."
and it DOES show the emotional attachment that they had. because it wasnt physical... it was emotional. also, he went all the way, in a sense, with abby... and not with her friend. because physically, they were "rolling around" and all... but they didnt do anything.
WHAT IS YOUR (ALL POSTERS HERE) PROBLEM??? Masturbation is something that most people do frequently, sometimes even when in a relationship. I am over 50 years old, and I found the scene extremely amusing, in addition to furthering the plot, as some posters have explained. Why anyone would find it embarassing is beyond me. Even when watching with one's parents; they did it too (almost certainly).
Allen Roth
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.--Burke
Masterbation is perfectly normal and nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone does it, and those who dont merely lie about not doing it. Its only The US's prudish puritanical beliefs that make everyone ashamed of their bodies and their sexuality. You relegate homosexuals to second class citizens and you make masterbation to be a dirty act. Wake up america!
Its no wonder your the laughing stock of the world. You may be a rich world power, but your country is lacking in common sense, values, and direction.
Your ethnocentrism knows no bounds, as does your hubris.
america destroys what it doesnt understand or what it fears. Minorities?? America feared them, so they made them second class citizens. Same goes for homosexuals and anyone else who doesnt fit the standard american ideal.
America is a cancerous tumor....spreading its vile nonsense to the actual civilized world.
And by the way, you ever notice that the only ones saying that America is the greatest nation are the americans themselves??? lol
You echo my thoughts exactly about masturbation; I realize that you are responding to an earlier post of someone else's. As far as your virulent anti-Americanism is concerned, Europe has nothing to be proud of. From mediaeval times on, almost all European powers not only practiced discrimination, war, slavery, etc., but virtually persecuted everyone they do not like. Whether it was Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Muslims,Capitalists, Communists, Socialists, Royalists, Republicans, Africans, etc. ad infinitum. It was European countries who went out and conquered, looted, enslaved and practiced war and extermination against scores of countries around the globe. My own parents were compelled to flee the Continent because of religious persecution. What I am saying is---EVERYONE IS AN INDIVIDUAL, AND SHOULD BE JUDGED INDIVIDUALLY. There are bad Americans, and there are bad Europeans, and the same holds true for good. If not for the lives of thousands of our young boys, all of Europe would have been engulfed by the dreadful Nazism, and its consequent horrors. We sent our men to save France, Britain, the Netherlands, Belgium, etc. HOW SHORT YOUR EUROPEAN MEMORIES ARE! Yes, we have committed grave wrongs, but we acknowledge that. Today in France, a Muslim girl is prohibited from wearing a veil in school. Many people in Europe think that they are the only noble citizens in the world. We have acknowledged many of our mistakes; the only country on the Continent that has ever approached that is, ironically, Germany---at least those political leaders and citizens who express remorse for their country's acts during the Second World War and after. Look in the mirror before you criticize others.
Allen Roth
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.--Burke
OK!OK! I think we're all getting a little off subject.
In my point of view the scene may not be necessary, but it does serve a purpose. It shows Abby and Ben bonding and connecting mentally instead of physically, and is the scene is a big reason why he decided to forgive her in the end. It's not even that graphic at all, I mean if I can watch it with my mother there's really nothing wrong with it, it doesn't even show anything. So for those who do think it's too graphic you need to get off your high horse and get over it. It's a good scene, the end.
Jenni
For the record, I'm a 23 year old American woman and I thought this scene was HOTTT...having already been in a relationship in which there were physical aspects, not much in movies can do something for me that I haven't already experienced in reality. However, this scene was pretty warming to the cold flesh, if you get my drift ;-). I felt it was definitely essential to the story in helping you feel the emotional connection that they felt and did not find it gross or disturbing at all. As for the watching it with parents or grandparents, how else do you people think you got here? The stork? Of course they've done it, too...probably a lot more than you have. Chew on that. :-P
"They only mock that which they don't understand."
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Huh??? I don't know where you're from, but you certainly aren't speaking for everyone in this "prudish puritanical cancerous tumor" of a country... maybe you should wake up.
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masturbation is good, that's point.
i don't see that scene gross at all!! is a sexy scene, it serves a purpuse as someone already pointed, and it has good taste.
americans really are puritans..........my God, sex and masturbation is tacky, gross, but killing millions of innocents (woman, babies, old people, etc) that's not gross??! that's watchable??
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It's amazing how practically every topic posted on IMDB turns into a critique of the American psyche. A few people find the mastubation scene disturbing and were all criticized. I found nothing wrong with the masturbation scene and this was a delightful movie.
It's because such a discussion is always started by Americans. Most of other people would never think of having trouble with such a scene. Just look at non-American movies boards: if a movie hasn't been released in USA there are no such discussions even if movie contains much hotter scenes or disturbing themas. But these discussions just kill every other side of the movie. I found some boards that a few seconds of nudity or something similar caused a discussion with more posts than all other topics together contained.
shareI totally agree with you. This scene was really the one kind-of serious, emotional plot point in an otherwise goofy romantic comedy (not that I don't like the movie, but that's what it is).
Also true about Janeane - why shouldn't she be seen as sexual? Hollywood totally marginalizes women like her. I hope we eventually see her in a full-on crazy graphic (but tasteful, of course) sex scene.
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masturbation is a completely normal thing and if you think it's tacky then there are obviously some sexual hang ups that you need to address. I just dont understand why it's such a shameful thing to want to get off even if it IS by yourself?
but for the movie it is showing how close their characters have gotten. that their emotional and mental bond is very strong and they are attracted to each other in ways OTHER than physically. the brain is after all the biggest sex organ in the body. (and i have watched this movie many times with my parents in the room and with other people it's not a big deal unless you make it a big deal)
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