Charles Bukowski


Has this got anything to do with him? Thought there was a lot similarities between Henry Chinaski + Tommy

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I came here to ask the same thing. I've never seen this film but my friend and I were discuassing the Mickey Rourke, Bukowski movie "Barfly" and we were driving ourselves nuts trying to remember if there was a 90's film based on Buk too. All we could remember was that Buscemi was in it. I guess this is the film we were remembering, but I'm not sure if it's inspired directly from Buk's writing or rather just an original film that happens to have a similar boozy, misanthropic lead character.

Hopfully someone else can elaborate better than me, I'm just relieved to find this film after trying for long to remember it. Needless to say I'll have to track this down now.

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The only thing Tommy shares in common with Hank Chinaski is his fondness for booze. Never thought "Bukowski" once when watching this and anyone who does has at best a very surface and incorrect view of Bukowski's work. So you read Post Office and Women and thought you knew the guy's range as a writer...ha.

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I think you meant to reply to the OP...?

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said, "I've gone out the window."

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I think I probably did! Many apologies to you sir or madam.

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i thought of bukowski more than once while watching trees lounge. even if the details are different, the general theme is the same. to me it's unmistakeable.

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Not at all. The only similarity to Barfly, is that it takes place in a bar (a lot of the scenes), and has to do with drinking a lot, drinking your life away, not being able to find a job, etc. so similar to Barfly, but not based on Bukowski at all; it's supposedly based on Buscemi's life.



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yep as above ... its a very bukowski movie but the source material was buscemis own ...
its got buks class though ... i thought that at the time ... although i only just realised esther balint
is in this ! from stranger than paradise

another great buk-esque flick ... if you can put up with the subtitles ... again not buk material
but same world view ... is junk mail ... or budbringeren in whatever language it was originally made in
... norwegianhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118785/
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you gotta admit parts of this were
pretty factotum-esque and dangling
in the tournefortia-esque ... when
hes running the ice cream truck of
course it wasnt ever as hard as ol
buk but the tone was somewhat akin
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As noted in other replies, "Tree's Lounge" has no direct connection with Charles Bukowski. But the film could certainly pass for a Bukowski novel or short story. The film involves "regular" people, just trying to get by the best they can, with alcohol sometimes acting as a salve for those wounds we all suffer from every day. Nothing particularly dramatic happens, unless you count the Tommy character receiving a beating for kissing an underage girl! But for the most part, the tone of "Tree's" is pitch perfect. It was easy to see myself in Tommy, as well as recognizing many people I know by the characters in the film's cast. Many are the times I've done (or tried to do) a few bumps of bad coke in a bar restroom with a stranger...or almost went home with a girl I met, only to have her pass out drunk or her friend run interference. I've screwed over friends and been screwed over BY them...and of course I've had my heart broken, and then couldn't do a damn thing about it, short of drowning my sorrows in drink and aimless wandering. I really have a deep appreciation for the low key indy film that isn't afraid to look at a real life, a film that refrains from inserting false or invented drama. There are not enough films like "Tree's Lounge"...films for thinking adults who don't always want to be jarred out of our seats by a loud action movie or pseudo-sexy thriller. Much like Bukowski's work, "Tree's Lounge" is, above all, believable. The film speaks to me because it IS me!


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I never suggested that "Trees" was just like a Bukowski story, only that it deals with subject matter similar to that often found in Bukowski's work. Bukowski wrote about the difficulties of life for the working class, and that's also what "Trees Lounge" is about. But a one to one comparison, equating Tommy to Chinaski, was never the question here. It would be difficult, however, to not make SOME kind of comparison between a story set around a neighborhood bar like "The Trees" and a Bukowski story, since the bar was Bukowski's milieu. Also the film's mixture of comedy and drama was something Bukowski did very well in his work. The ice cream truck subplot, for example, is a comic premise that would not have been out of place in a Bukowski story. One could definitely imagine Chinaski stumbling into such a job and the results would most likely have been hilarious. Most of Bukowski's work was anchored in the real world, and "Trees" is as well. I was only suggesting that if a person enjoyed this film, they would probably like Charles Bukowski's stories as well.

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Nothing particularly dramatic happens, unless you count the Tommy character receiving a beating for kissing an underage girl!


17 is not underage in New Jersey. 18 is the age in 12 states. In the other 38 it is 17 or less. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America

18 is the age you have to be in order to participate in porn though, under federal law. People get confused because of this I think.

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HA! Now that you mention it!

I believe it's more autobiographical than anything...

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I happened to be reading Bukowski's Women around the time I saw Trees Lounge and couldn't help but notice some similarities as well. Tommy is a lot more sympathetic than Henry Chinaski though. Henry's a dark, angry misfit while Tommy came across as more of a harmless, irresponsible goofball.

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