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Perfect example of why parents suck


Parents are full of *beep* "I know what's best for you," they crow, and demand that you follow their wishes. Become a bit older and you realize that parents were just flying by the seat of their pants, making up *beep* as they went along. Their whole trip is forcing onto their kids every aspiration that they couldn't get done in their *beep* lives, stacking all their neuroses on the kids' younger and as yet unbefuddled minds, trying to drive them into the mad adult world. Parents are self-centered, selfish *beep* Their first reason for having kids is to extend themselves into the future as if they're *all that*. Then they make believe that they're putting *everything* into their kids' lives when it's really about making their kids *them*. It's all about themselves. But the fact is, they can't sometimes. No matter how hard they beat you, how many mind games they play, at least with some kids the mind finally awakens, and it's a great moment to say, *beep* YOU, MOM! *beep* YOU, DAD! Eat *beep* and DIE!

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*shakes head* I just don't know what to say...

"DON'T PANIC."

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umm, you'll be a parent too, i suppose. and then you'll see things from another perspective.

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No-- I've specifically chosen *not* to have children. I don't need to pass on my parents' genes. Realizing what a screwed up line I come from, and not propagating it, is the least I can do. Extracting myself from under my parents' thumbs and taking my own tact against their selfish ways leaves me with many other things I can do that are worthwhile besides repeating the pattern.

_Shine_ angered me significantly as I watched David's mind and spirit become crushed by his father's authoritarian whims. He did not love his son; only the glory the boy's talent might bring to his feeble life. There are some good parents out there; I've seen them. But there are plenty of horrible ones as well, passing along legacies of dysfunction and insanity.

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u r a loser! n parents r wonderful!

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"No-- I've specifically chosen *not* to have children."

You are taking the easy way out. Blame everyone else for doing a bad job that you refuse to do yourself.

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Okay, but, at least he's being responsible and recognizing that his foundations are cracked ... instead of building on top of it with more children, pretending that he's a-ok and messing up yet another generation of people... he's recognizing that they'll probably end up messed up too and is not having them.

You either get it or you don't. If you don't get it -- consider yourself blessed.

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omg voidmind I feel ya! I'm not having kids for similar reasons! Or at least, the reasons you listed are one of the reasons I don't want kids.

These people bashing you on this thread must not have had psychologically manipulative parents lol.

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You could have kids and NOT repeat the pattern.

Most parents are actually nice.

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geez, have a few issues with your parents, maybe?

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Totes.

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Somebody's daddy never hugged him.

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What is this "*beep*" of which you speak?

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Some parents do view their kids as a source of vanity. It's true. Some parents truly don't give a sh-t about their kids' genuine needs and wants. It wasn't until I went off to college that I learned that I only I could find out what it was I truly wanted from life and that I had been sheepishly going along with my father's vision of what my life should be. Just because kids are not usually a tool by which some parents try to attain their lost dreams, doesn't mean it doesn't happen with some people.

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Well.
That actress that makes the little girl in the end of the movie probably does have sucky parents. To let her act in a movie facing a middle aged man's thingy bouncing up and down the trampolin.
She must've had nightmares for ages.

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Nightmares why? More likely she was just curious, maybe laughed about it, she certainly doesn't seem shocked or scared to death in the movie.

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Not all of us had great parents, unfortunately we can't pick them ourselves or I'd have chosen Mike and Carol Brady. I know what it's like to be hit and kicked or get whipped with a leather dog leash. I know about being humiliated in front of friends or verbally and psychologically until you want to scream. Yes, I have to agree with you...some parents do SUCK! What you have to do is make sure you get yourself enough support to get over all the psychological crap they did to you so you can lead a productive life and NOT do the same to your own children. Don't give them the satisfaction that they screwed you up by being a loser. Get your education, some how, and make something of yourself. Stop the Cycle! Maybe some day they'll end up in a nursing home where some mean nurse will beat the tar out of them, like they did to their kids!

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