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Anybody seen this film?


Question - are there any "Mystery Science Theatre 3000" type shows for action flicks? IMO- this movie would be a prime candidate for one.

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Personally, I think that comment reveals more about you (angry white guy? Bush voter?) than it contributes to any awareness or appreciation of this film. It's not like this movie was Kurosawa or Peckinpaugh Redux, or anything like that, but it never tries to be.

Rachel MacLish was *the* female bodybuilder of her day and does all of her own stunts -- including all the rock-climbing and riding. The story's simple and straightforward, in keeping with the somber theme... After 5 centuries of genocide and exploitation of Native Americans, too many things still haven't improved enough, and it's still "business as usual" when money talks.

If you don't believe that, you've probably not been around too many people with personal links to that legacy of 5 centuries of shame and guilt.

It's so much easier, isn't it, to try and pretend to laugh -- however weak and lame the attempt at humor?

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Y'know, I would agree with you totally if this movie was a profound and serious work of art chronicling the troubles of an oppressed people. I would respond by saying "Yes Pretifly- you are absolutely right, and my comment was out of place".... but.....no. This is actually an extremely goofy action flick.
It's great that the main character was a body builder, and did all her own stunts.... of course, the really unconvincing acting, and wacky fight/action/chase scenes didn't do any of the "highlights" you mentioned any justice.
So much of this movie was just plain wrong. What was up with the professional killer with the tattoos- was he polynesian, or native American, or both? Why did all the bad guys keep walking into really obvious traps (eg- the guy that stopped shooting at her, and instead decides to follow her out onto a slippery rock face?)
Maybe it was my growing buzz (I was on my 3rd beer at this point), but I eventually started rooting for the bad guys. I was jumping up and down saying "shoot her! She's right there! Noooo- don't go in there! You've got her- Take the shot! Aim damnit- aim!".
I stick by my original comment. This movie would be great material for an episode of MST3k, or a show similar to it.

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Personally, I think your response reveals more about YOU than it contributes to any of the issues which you feel the film addresses, or the worth of Rachel MacLish as an actress or bodybuilder.

"Ravenhawk" is a cheesy, 3rd rate film featuring cardboard characters, cliched dialog, and a by-the-numbers revenge plot. And I disagree that it doesn't pretend to be anything else. Instead, I feel that Pyun and the writer try to disguise the film's basic cheesiness by throwing in elements of shamanism, mysticism, tribal traditions and a message of ecological awareness and responsibility...but that's all it is, is a disguise. As one of the best reviews points out, the movie isn't so much addressing these issues as using them as a veneer, exploiting the viewer's knee-jerk reaction to them to hide the terrible acting and third-rate movie-making going on here.

Rachel MacLish is an admirable person, and I can appreciate the fact that she did her own stunts. But she's a Body, not an actress, and Pyun exploits her body in endless closeups on her muscles that linger far too long for anyone except some kind of weird fetishist to enjoy. THAT, my friend, is a dead giveaway that the movie isn't really about anything other than exploing MacLish's physique.

It doesn't matter if the movie tries to be somber and respectful if the execution of the movie sucks. And the execution sucks here. THAT'S what the intial poster was going for.

So lighten up bit, eh? If you liked the film, and thought it brought important issues to light, good for you. If someone else thought it was cheesy and silly, so what?

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this movie sucks, it is just plain stupid, I'm watching it right now on HBO and it's terrible. You people are funny, you would think by some of the comments that this was Dances with Wolves, which WAS great. I just got done watching a scene in which the main character got naked in front of a fire, wrapped herself in her "traditional" native american attire and stared into the fire and drooled on herself. Clearly this is true Native American beauty, a body builder with fake boobs drooling on herself. This movie is more a disgrace to native americans than anything else, it's the equivalent of a Dolph Lundgren movie about the holocaust. Rachel Mclish is pretty hot but that doesn't have anything to do with the content of the movie. I don't care if you love this movie or not, but don't sit there and act like this is some great testament to the Native American people, that shows a lot of ignorance on YOUR part. By the way, I hate bush, My aunt is full Native American along with several people I went to school with, so how about you get a f%$king clue.

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Thinking about it, there could be a "Mystery Science Theater 3000" type show for any film in any genre. It's impossible to make a movie that couldn't be satirized in that medium.
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I don't know why someone said they "just had to" use the Indian/Energy issue as a background for this flick. Is it a "Die Hard?" I don't think so. It is a revenge flick. but so was "The Princess Bride." So was any version of "Hamlet" ever produced. Same with Robin Hood.
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The film is true to the films put out by the Dineh Nation -- "the People, whom the White Man call 'Navajo.'" (Actually, "Navajo" is an Apache word meaning "other," while "Dineh" means "The People." The Apache and Navajo were once the same tribe.)
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People I've met in the positions of the main heavies in this film aren't normally that nasty. They might be arrogant or humbly arrogant, but not plain evil. The author of "Who Killed Karen Silkwood" would disagree with my experience, though, and the manipulation of the Native Americans by big business is accurately portrayed.
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It probably was a mistake to have McLish as Rhyia Shadowfeather shot in the leg and then leap from flat on her back to mounted on the horse behind the assassin in one move. The dialogue wasn't that bad, although Rhyia's character was a little bit strange.
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I thought it was an enjoyable film, and, of course, McLish was hot.
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Sounds like a typical reply from a Bush voter.....resorting to insults.

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One thing I found kinda humorous about this film in particular was how blatently slow the main character actually moved. There were lots of scenes where she would be running alot slower than whatever was chasing her, then all of a sudden, they would cut to another scene, and she would be 1000 feet further away.

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I like to also add, the poster & vhs cover make the movie seem like; it made in the 1970's rachel is holding shotgun, but the movie comes off like something out of the 80's they even have nudity and hair stlye like the times to.

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Average action movie. Was good.

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the choreography was better, than most modern day movies. and it wasn't half bad.

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Of course i've seen and own this film, it had a DVD release in Australia. Cost me $4000 in travel expenses and three months of going into every Australian DVD rental shop i saw to track it down but i did - Oz owners hate selling their rentals when they can't be replaced but i would not be beat. The last film Johnny Harris scored - such a shame.

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wow, i ain't mad at you. glad that you found a copy, do you have a poster of the movie?

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No just the DVD and some of the score on a promo CD. Did it get a cinema release in America as it's billed as a TV movie? I'm a fan of the composer who got the job because he's friends with Ron Samuels due to the Lynda Carter connection. Also been a long time fan of Albert Pyun so love this film for at least two reasons and Rachel is impressive of course.

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yeah that is a impressive connection. nah it just a TV movie here in the states, i wish it had gotten a cinema release though. and i also wonder how come this movie is rated 'R', it seems PG-13 to me?

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