This movie is crap. i watched about 15 minutes of it , and had to turn it off, due to its gross mis-interpretation of marilyn/norma jean. I have read several books on her life, (although not eddie's) I don't believe she had ever been raped, although i do think she was sexually abused. I'm also pretty sure she didn't f-ck her way into movies. My girlfriend and I are both big marilyn fans, and just could not watch this melodramatic, tabloid trash excuse for a movie.
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this movie is such tabloid *beep*
ok, so i believe marilyn wasn't exactly the brightest spark in the world
but *beep* hell, this movie makes her out to be a total *beep* dumbass
i absoluetly adore marilyn or at least the memory of her
and this movie pretty much *beep* all over her
I also hated how they made her a total druggie. I hate how every movie about an icon has to be about the drugs. Pisses me off.
"He who laughs last didn't get it"
"Every family tree has a few nuts"
I also hated how they made her a total druggie.
what do you expect? that movies about icons keep selling you the massmediatic image everybody expects?
shareThis movie didn't make Marilyn a drug addict...Marilyn was a drug addict. Read a book about her.
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Have to disagree with you andreacapron. Marilyn daydreamed about marrying the greatest ball player in America when she was a little girl. She ended up doing so. She also dreamt about marrying one of the greatest artistic geniuses of the world. Again, she did. Both marriages had a lot more to do with her desperate need to be loved and fulfillment of her childhood desires than career advancement.
And she wasn't a whore. The casting couch was a very common phenomenon back then; Marilyn certainly wasn't the only legend of the silver screen who got a career boost from it.
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It's striking that so many people here seem to be treating Norma Jean as a blank slate onto which they can project their own fantasies and delusions about the mythical 'Marilyn Monroe'. I don't much care how factually accurate the film is. Biopics should be judged on their success in pursuing, truthfully (as opposed to merely 'factually'), aspects of the life of a well-known figure, and the place he or she occupies in cultural, social or political life. Many of the best biopics are riven with factual inaccuracies (often deliberately so) but still manage to provide genuine insights. It's called drama. Having said that, this movie is perilously close to being a load of old crap. Biopics usually are.
The worst thing about it is surely the clunky 'split personality' conceit that is portrayed through the Norma Jean/Ashley Judd v. Marilyn Monroe/Mira Sorvino device. It's cringeworthy. No, Jean and Monroe were not different people, and despite fine performances from Judd and Sorvino, the manner in which this division is adopted only begs the question, where did that breathless, boop-boop-bee-doo voice materialise from? Did Jean/Judd's apparently no nonsense, tough-talking vocal chords get removed during plastic surgery? I can see the director and screenwriter now, saying, "Hey, I know - let's emphasise the transformation of Norma into Marilyn by actually having Norma speak to Marilyn, giving her pep talks and general advice! Yeh!! A different name, a different look, a different voice - a whole different person! That's the way it was, right?!" Idiots.
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She was a druggie! She used to mix downers all the time! What do you think your precious icon died from? overdose of chloral hydrate!
sharei agree with the rejection of this film. i have been a fan of marilyn for many years, and have been fascinated by her life. marilyn struggled with emotional problems her entire life (with good reason), but was in no way "dumb" or talentless. she was incredibly hardworking, and to call her dumb is simply inaccurate- she took classes at UCLA in the 50s, when it was rare for a woman, especially of her social status, to do so, and was an avid poetry reader (she especially loved walt whitman). Although hollywood executives and directors found it easy and marketable to sell her as a dumb blonde pin up girl, marilyn longed for the chance to be considered a real actress, and to be offered dramatic and different roles. This film is an inaccurate representation of marilyn monroe's life, accenting all of the negatives and leaving out her inner beauty.
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I haven't read any extensive Marilyn biographies, but I read a few on Sinatra and the other Rat Pack guys, and loads of people in that circle saw Marilyn pretty much as she was depicted here, as a giggling, dreamy pillhead who'd drop her top at a suggestion.
But that's the perspective of a bunch of pretty sexist dudes..
This movie, though, I don't understand - the choreographer made sure to get Sorvino's moves precisely accurate when doing "diamonds are a girl's best friend" - but the director can't be bothered to get the time line of Monroe's life right, and completely blows her death. Poorly done, inneffective and just plain inexcusably innacurate.
The only thing I liked was the whole idea of Marilyn victimized, for a change, not by Hollywood or men, but by her own sweet Norma Jean self. Normally the media tends to paint Norma Jean as the saint and Marilyn as the sinner, so this was interesting.
This movie is not supposed to be a biography of Marilyn...it is an examination of the inner demons that tormented Marilyn all her life and how they affected her life.
shareIt was a disgusting mockery and disgrace to everything to do with Marilyn, no one knew Marilyn's 'inner demons'
She was NOTHING like the girl portrayed in this movie, it makes me SICK to my stomach that some people are sitting there, getting their first sight of Marilyn and learning her from this FERAL movie...
And I do believe she was raped, by Frank Sinatra... and something is very dodgy about her death, how do you swallow forty pills with no water?
And apparently the coroners raped her as well but I can find NOTHING anywhere that supports that..
I know for a fact that that the autopsy was botched, and she was said to have been 'clear and beautiful' when she went in and now, if you google 'Marilyn Monroe' on a picture search the very first image is her mangled dead face.
Disgusting.
I do agree with you that there are a lot of discrepancies, inconsistencies, and unanswered questions regarding Marilyn's death and I have resigned myself to the fact that we will never learn the truth about how Marulyn died.
shareI was so happy to find this movie because I am a total Marilyn Monroe fan but from the minute I turned it on I was angry. In practically the very first scene it showed her getting naked and claiming to sleep her way into the movies. I HATED IT! If I could I would take it back for a refund but I can't.
I totally agreed with what everyone else said. Its seems like they were like "Alright let's get every bad thing we can think of that Marilyn ever did and put it in a movie and if that isn't enough then we can lie about some things to make her look like a freaking whore!"
Marilyn Monroe was extremely talented but yes she did have a problem with pills, thats true but this movie totally overkilled that idea. If you want a real good movie about Marilyn then I suggest "BLONDE." It isn't sold in stores but Blockbuster does carry it and it was a much more accurate picture of the life of Marilyn Monroe!
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"and something is very dodgy about her death, how do you swallow forty pills with no water"
I was reading a book on her death, and there were no traces of the Nembutal she overdosed on in her stomach, but in her colon, meaning the drugs were administered through enema. Then the question is, who killed her? I highly doubt she killed herself.
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because it would be virtually untraceable and make her death an even bigger mystery. it doesnt matter if its not practical...thats how she overdosed.
this is speculation on my part, but its possible that whoever killed her put the nembutal in the enema and she used it without knowing. enemas were like a normal part of a beauty regimine for her.
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The pic you have seen online of Marilyn dead was hours after she was dead and she wasn't enbalmed. See how hot you look after having rigor mortis set in!
shareThe explanation I've read before regarding how she looks in the morge pictures is that the picture was taken after the autopsy, therefore if they opened her skuil to examine her brain, her face would probably look different because you have to cut the scalp ovbiously, making the skin sag.
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I do not know that much about Marilyn Monroe. I watched part of a couple biographies on her but did not find her enchanting enough to finnish watching the biographies. However, I think enrique54324 may have a point. They show two extremes with Norma Jean and Marilyn. If you average the two of them out you get what all the Monroe fans seem to be boasting.
shareyah it was pretty bad they show her inteligent at first and then just plain stupid the next unless you were hit by a brick .how dose this happen they should have showed her latter self as being caustious and carefull not retarded and whiney.make a new film and this time makesome scence this time.
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OH MY GOD! This movie was so bad, i had to watch 25 minutes every night...and i still have half to watch. :( Mira Sorvino was horrible in this one :( so bad, evrytime i think i am watching a movie about someone else. So bad :( very, very bad....
Ashley Judd tho, she was better...she was a sexier Marylin....but Mira :( who chosed Mira? bad choice!
I hate the movie and i was so happy when i bought it. :( Sad!
I want freedom for the full expression on my personality...
Marilyn did claim to several people that she was sexually abused as a child, and had been attacked by a sailor, was nearly raped by a poilceman - but since Marilyn had a tendancy to fabricate and fantasize, who knows.
shareOne thing that is fabricated is that Marilyn came on to her drama teacher, Natasha, who was known to love women. She even proclaimed her love to Marylin, to which she replied, "You don't have to love me. You just have to work with me".
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