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Why do I often see Czechs claim Kolja was made with Hollywood in mind?



Browsing through the user comments section I noticed several Czech posters accusing Kolja of being tailored to please American audiences and Academy voters and then proceeding to assert that a number of superior Czech pictures are undeservedly overlooked because they fail to comply with international tastes, and are only known to and appreciated by Czechs. The titles are never mentioned, so even approximately I can't tell what films they mean. Anyone here who do hold this opinion and can possibly substantiate it, providing evidence and examples?



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I'm a bit peeved that some of the stuck-up Czech reviewers keep saying that American viewers won't fully enjoy this film because they won't understand some of the Czech humor in it. Well, I may have missed out on that, but I still enjoyed the film. I'm sure there are plenty of American films that contain American humor that the Czechs won't understand.

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I am one of those Czechs who keep claiming that (also partly because I've experienced many Americans online seeing it more as a melodramatic film, while what I personally enjoyed most - at least on the first viewing many years ago, before I got deeper into the story - was the humor). But at the same time I agree with you that there must be many American films that the Czechs wouldn't enjoy as much as Americans do. There are always many things that are lost in translation, and don't translate well into another culture, and it works both ways.

"There is Robinson, alone on lone island - but they will marry."

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Some of the Czech humor in Kolja is understandable to Americans. At least, the Czech dislike of Russian occupation comes through loud and clear.

While it may have been made for an "international" audience, the talent of the director, actors, and actresses in Kolja indicate that earlier and "smaller"/"provincial" Czech films must have been very well made.

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"Some of the Czech humor in Kolja is understandable to Americans. At least, the Czech dislike of Russian occupation comes through loud and clear."


The thing is, that's exactly the difference in appreciation I'm poiting at. There is, of course, a good deal of Czech-Russian based humour in the film, but the humour is based more on individual people's idiosyncratic reactions to situations than some universal all-enveloping feeling. It's more in the language, the way things are said, and THAT's what's universally Czech about it.

Knowing Zdenek Sverák's other films, or Czech films in general helps here. (The trouble is, lots of them are not available in English.) I remember reading a review by Roger Ebert, of some other Czech film (that I have not seen myself), where he said something about Czech films being about little, insignificant yet very typical and, in their own way, important people. Or something along those lines. I think he got it, or at least part of it.

Most Czech comedies Czechs would consider good - at least I think so - work with that: those little idiosyncracies in people and the language. And this kind of humour seems to penetrate all Czech films, even the serious ones - sometimes done well, sometimes badly (and opinions on which is which differ, of course), but it's always there. That's why we say Czech humour is lost on others. It may sound stuck-up, and maybe often is, but it's a fact of life in a world with different cultures and languages. In about the same way English-speaking actors' work with accents is often lost on me.

(A typical example of the difficulty of translation here is Louka's sigh when he sees yet another bunch of bills when he comes home in the beginning - you can translate his frustration, but you cannot translate the colourful way he expresses it so easily. I hear the translators into English pretty much gave up, and I can't blame them.)


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To be honest I didn't notice any Czech posters which are as you saying 'accusing Kolja of being tailored to please' etc... But because I am from Czech republic, I know and remember the reaction of audience after release of this movie. It is quite easy to explain. Sverak made several very succesfull movies before Kolja. Those movies were much more 'czech' than Kolja itself, following the best tradition of older czech bitter-sweet comedies and stories. Kolja just doesnt fill that bill the same way, its more 'international' - meaning different style of humor and storytelling. Its kinda hard to explain, but you can try some earlier movies from Sverak to get the point: Vesnicko má stredisková (My Sweet Little Village),Marecku, podejte mi pero!(Marecek, Pass Me the Pen! ) and many others. And there is one another important thing. Zdenek Sverak was for plenty of years participating on theatre project Divadlo Jary Cimrmana, but that is for long explanation (maybe use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jara_Cimrman).. So, plenty of Czech people just expected similar stuff. Anyway, I liked the movie a lot, but have to say that :O) I like Sverak's other stuff more.

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I haven't gone through all of the posts here, but I honestly do not remember any accusations of catering to Hollywood / Academy tastes.

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I was browsing through the user comments and noticed a few expressing this opinion. To save you the trouble of looking for them yourself I'll list them right here:

not so bad... but still worst film by Sverak, 12 March 1999
Author: Gejza Kvasinka ([email protected]) from Bratislava, Slovakia

This film is compromise between excellency of Sverak and expectations of Americans (sorry :-). If it didn't get Oscar, I think not many people here in Czech rep. and Slovakia would be interested in it... there are much better films.




Not great movie from great director, 13 October 2000
6/10
Author: d.student from Prague

Zdenek Sverak is one of best Czech directors and his movies belong to classical movies of Czech film archive and lots of his movies are connected to people brains and hearts very much. But those movies were written without any hidden purpose, just to make movie, and they were great (but with Czech humor and based on Czech mentality and history, it means the movies were not targeted on the international scene where they could not get much understanding). On the other hand, Kolja is movie made for commercial purpose for international scene, it is not Sverak's movie, but it is movie how Sverak expected people in US and western Europe would like to watch. It is too sweet and too heart breaking story. I do not have to see this movie again and I voted for it by number 6.


Sentimental Comedy, 3 August 2000
6/10
Author: dtomek from Prague, Czechia

Zdenek Sverák (playing Louka) is the greatest star of Czech cinema as screen-play writer and actor. 'Kolya' is not bad and I cried at certain moments both times I saw this movie. However, 'Kolya' was made by Zdenek Sverák and his son, director Jan Sverák, with the intention to get international success. This caused the film plot is predictable and sometimes embarrassingly didactic. Not only in my view, another movie written by Zdenek Sverák deserved Oscar: I mean 'Vesnicko má stredisková' directed by Jirí Menzel, a film with much better actors than Kolya, less stupid plot, but not less human and touching. If you want to see a really excellent comedy about the situation when somebody has to help, because he is the only one who can help, try to get 'Vesnicko má stredisková'.



Horrible movie!!!, 12 June 2005
1/10
Author: rmixtaj from United Republic of Tanzania

This movie is just so bad! It is all fake - technically good, but fake.... As a Czech I agree with all the Czechs before me who noted that this film was intentionally created to be "effective" in the west. Sverak seized his opportunity and used the historical fact that people in the west may be interested in a story like this at that time. This is a Hollywood style made movie that is apparently created by a Czech for non-Czechs and as can be seen from the previous contributions - it found its viewers - people who call it Czechoslovakian - although it is purely Czech, people who believe it describes life in USSR - we were never part of the USSR, and even people who believe it was political and helped us to fight the Russian oppression - the movie was made in 1996, long after the revolution.....after all it shows the communist reality so unrealistic - so sweet....full of romantic pictures....so that the stupid Americans who need to see the world black and white can understand it....it is a well packed sweet product from a far away easteuropan country which explains in pictures how it all was.....I absolutely hate this film and think that there are hundreds of better Czech movies, especially from the 60's, but I am not sure that the people in the West, especially in the US would ever get them - they are too realistic and it takes time and requires some intellectual curiosity which most of them are missing.....The worst thing is that once, years from now, people will look at it, none of them will have a direct experience with communism and they will cry over this story and think of how bad, but actually "interesting" times they were!....I can literally see the annoying tourists coming to Prague these days and bearing in mind this movie with its cute pictures, music, universal story and a "very interesting period called Communism"....I am going to stop now - this movie make me angry even now!


One of them turned out to be actually from a Slovakian but that doesn't take away from my observation, I hope.

It's used to be all girls with no clothes. Now it's all clothes and no girls.

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I know the author of this comment probably won't be reading here...

"not so bad... but still worst film by Sverak, 12 March 1999
Author: Gejza Kvasinka ([email protected]) from Bratislava, Slovakia

This film is compromise between excellency of Sverak and expectations of Americans (sorry :-). If it didn't get Oscar, I think not many people here in Czech rep. and Slovakia would be interested in it... there are much better films."

- but I have to react to that.
I cannot speak to the other claims these comments make, whether it was made with the intention of getting international audience or not (I'm not the makers of the film) or whether it's the worst Czech film or not (I don't think so, but opinions of this kind tend to differ). But this is definitely factually incorrect. Kolja was one of the most viewed films in cinemas in the 90s. BEFORE it got an Oscar. I saw it three times in the cinemas when it was out, myself.


"There is Robinson, alone on lone island - but they will marry."

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Of all the Czech films I have seen, this is the most sentimental one by far. It consciously ticks all the right boxes of the Hollywood cliché formula, of which the Oscar awarding Academy just can't seem to get enough:

Two complete strangers, with incongruent personalities and opposing goals in life, are forced upon each other by circumstance. Initially they hate each other and fail to communicate, but having to undergo life's hardships together a bond of friendship and true love is formed. This bond redeems the flawed personality traits of one of the protagonists, the one who starts off in the film way too self-assured. The other protagonist may also be redeemed but in a completely different way, for instance physically rather than mentally.

There's a streak of naive rebelliousness. But rather than being political radicals, our protagonists rebel merely to preserve their friendship at all costs, which is under threat due to a misunderstanding of the authorities. In their own humble way our heroes get caught up in a major historical event. ("Congratulations, how do you feel?" "I gotta pee." [turning to camera]: " I believe he said he had to go pee. Heh heh.") The historical event puts the authorities back in their place, thus magically conspiring to save the bond between our protagonists.

All this is served with a dash of pseudo-risqué jokes, tenderness and (very important!) male vulnerability as the token signifier of depth of characterisation, with a light sprinkle of doe-eyed tears along the way towards the guaranteed happy ending.

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The golden age of Czech cinema was in the 1960s and early 1970s, and is called Czech New Wave (in my opinion far superior to French New Wave). These films, often critical of Communism, had to be very creative to get round state censorship. This creativeness is not only expressed by how the anti-authoritarian message is conveyed plot-wise, but also stylistically.

Here are a few, most of which can be found on the excellent DVD label Second Run:

1) Jiri Weiss - Romeo, Julia A Tma (Romeo, Juliet And Darkness, 1960)
2) Milos Forman - Konkurs (Audition, 1963)
3) Jan Nemec - Démanty Noci (Diamonds of the Night, 1964)
A non-linear (or "circular") film about two boys on the run from hunters.
4) Jan Nemec - O slavnosti a hostech (The Party And the Guests, 1966)
About the highly arbitrary nature of the abuse of authoritarian power.
5) Ivan Passer - Intimni osvetleni (Intimate Lighting, 1966)
An amateur string quartet gets together in the countryside to practice Mozart, they are often disturbed by their female companions.
6) Vera Chytilová - Sedmikrásky (Daisies, 1966)
An experimental feminist film about two hip girls who just want to have fun.
7) Jiri Menzel - Ostre sledované vlaky (Closely Observed Trains, 1966)
A dark comedy about sex and heroism with a small "h" that takes place at a village railway station during the Nazi occupation.
8) Frantisek Vlacil - Marketa Lazarova (1967)
A medieval epic about war and paganism.
9) Juraj Herz - Spalovac mrtvol (The Cremator, 1968)
About a Czech Nazi collaborator who takes part in the Holocaust, an interesting take on how someone tries to justify his "ethnic cleansing" (a.k.a. genocide).
10) Jaromil Jires - Valerie a tyden divu (Valerie and Her Week of Wonders, 1970)
A Surrealist Alice in Wonderland type vampire story about the coming of age of an adolescent girl.
11) Karel Kachyna - Ucho (The Ear, 1970)
About the surveillance in a totalitarian state, and how it drives innocent people crazy with fear and paranoid suspicion.

The last six in that list are my personal favourites.

Unfortunately Czech film has never been as good since then, but more recent films available on DVD worth checking out are:

Petr Zelenka - Knoflikari (Buttoners, 1997)
Vladimír Michálek - Babí léto (Autumn Spring, 2001)
Jan Sverák - Vratné lahve (Empties, 2007)

And, of course, the excellent animation films by Jan Svankmajer (Alice, Faust, etc.) and Jirí Barta (Krysar, a.k.a. Labyrinth of Darkness, 1986) .

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Thanks, I loved Daisies 1966 and hope to see the rest

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