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Who was the worse villan--Sugar or Cush's Dad?


Both were vile liars that betrayed Jerry M big time. Which one was worse in your opinion?

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Sugar for sure, Cush's dad just wanted best for his son and was probably sweet talked by Sugar "pun intended". Great movie rewatching it right now.

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Always got the impression Cush's dad signed with Sugar out of spite for Jerry spending time with his other client. There's a hint of malice when he says "You were in the lobby, with the black fellow".

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Sugar had no reason to be like that....he was a huge d!ck just for the sake of being one.

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Cush's dad is a complete loser and liar.

He insists on a handshake ("strong as oak") deal with Jerry, then not only reneges, he doesn't even have the guts to tell Jerry and lets Jerry keep thinking he's representing his son. To add insult to injury, the dad is willing to sign a contract with Sugar, something he insisted wasn't necessary with Jerry. Any a-hole pulled that kind of nonsense and it got around, he'd be kicked out of Texas. Using the excuse "best for my family" is BS. If that was really what was best, you shouldn't have shook hands with Jerry first.

Sugar is smarmy, sure, but he's honest about it. He's just fighting the competition (Jerry) with everything he has. As far as I can tell, he didn't do anything unethical at all. Cush didn't sign with anybody, if Sugar can get him to switch agents, that's on Cushman, not him.

"You didn't come into this life just to sit around on a dugout bench, did ya?"

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Agree 100%. Sugar never claimed what Cush's dad did... and thus did not betray anything: Capitalism at its best!

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sugar has skills.



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Agree. Sugar was a dick, but that is unabashedly who he is. If he got screwed over by the next guy, or when he gets old, he'd own it as that's the business.

Beau Bridges' character's fake downhome trust thing was just backstabbing BS, and he probably still thinks he's in the right, doesn't understand anyone else's opinion.

Also, just a little bit racist. Little bit there.

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Completely agree.

You don’t “do contracts”?

Well the rest of us “do reality,” pops.

What a POS.

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I agree. It was almost unbelievable noone wanted to mention anything when Jerry joins them in their room. They were so unscrupulous they couldn't even be forthright. Misleading and not decent enough to give their original agent a chance at a counter offer. Maybe he was so racist he signed w Sugar out of spite.

You wouldn't want people like that as clients either way.

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Posted in a different thread but I'll post the same thing since it applies here:

I think it was Sugar that manipulated the Dad, stating that Jerry was a liability and not represented by a major agency. Jerry would be desperate and needed the contract and would not do what was in his son's best interest. Sugar was represented by a large firm that could get his son with Denver and get the cash needed. Jerry was a risk.

I think it ultimately spooked the dad and he made up some story about Jerry spending time with Rod and the 'black fella' just to get Jerry to go away without having to admit his own insecurity.

This happens quite often in football to be honest... Even between seasoned players/coaches. Look at the Steve Hutchinson (Seattle/Vikings likely HOF Guard) and Mike Holmgren (Seattle HC) debacle. Seattle said they would for sure get a deal done after Shaun Alexander (RB) and not to worry, but Steve's agent manipulated Hutchinson into panicking and signing with the Vikings.

Later, Steve was in tears when meeting with Mike after Mike and the FO were like, "DUDE, what were you thinking!? We totally wanted you back! Why did you do this!? We told you we'd get it done!" and Steve was totally screwed because he already signed the dotted line.


Just another case of what happened here. Jerry was a competent agent and would've gotten Cush's kid what he wanted... but due to panic, politics, and manipulation (agents are EXCELLENT at this)... he panicked and ended up destroying a relationship.

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Sugar was pure evil, a nemesis.
Cush's Dad was just an opportunist, looking for the best deal for his son. In the end, took a you snooze, you lose attitude with Jerry.

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Fantastic movie. That's a tough call. I'm going to go with Sugar.

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Sugar. Easily. Not only is he ruthless, he enjoyed firing Jerry and relished seeing his life go down the toilet with sadistic glee.

Cush’s dad wanted the best for his kid and was too cowardly to tell Jerry they went with Sugar, partly to spare Jerry the pain, partly to avoid the awkward drama.

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