Jeff Goldbum and Judd Hirsch’s characters
Are they supposed to be Jewish? I’m a tad confused because the movie didn’t really make that clear. My apologies in advance but sometimes I need things clearly spelled out for me.
shareAre they supposed to be Jewish? I’m a tad confused because the movie didn’t really make that clear. My apologies in advance but sometimes I need things clearly spelled out for me.
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I grew up in a Jewish/Italian neighborhood, and they were most definitely Jewish, the old man particularly so.
I would suggest that in movies, we have Jewish people wear some sort of identifying patch or something so they can proudly show off their heritage. Maybe something like...Hmmmmm...I got it! A Star of David insignia on their clothes! (It should be a bright, noticeable color so that it stands out. How about yellow?) That's an important symbol to their faith, I believe.
shareYeah I got the feeling the movie was trying to say they were Jewish but it was so subtle I wanted to make sure I was making the right connection. Yes if they wore the Star of David that would have helped me out a lot
shareAnother ambiguous character was Goldblum's coworker with the goatee. I think he might have been gay but wasn't sure. Or is the PC term "Fruit-booty"? I can't keep them straight.
shareReally he was gay? I mean he did wave his arms in a slightly effeminate way but I never knew that was an implication that he was a homosexual. This film sure is subtle
shareWasn't Judd Hirsch doing official Jewish prayers at one point?
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You're right, forgot about that. Didn't he also tell the Defense Secretary that "nobody's perfect" when the Secretary told Hirsh he wasn't Jewish during the prayers?
You know the OP was just posting the opposite of reality, right? Those two were such obvious Jewish caricatures, he was just mocking the fact a bit.
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It's not always easy to tell in a faceless forum. I mean, some of the stuff that's going on in the world is crazier than satire. The Onion News isn't funny anymore because reality exceeds the human imagination for satire.
I would think Julius' appearance would be a dead giveaway, along with his choice of words like "schmuck" and "schlemiel".
You are right, I am so glad that the film didn't shove it in our faces that he was Jewish, you had to pay attention and pick up on the very subtle clues spread throughout the film to figure out he was Jewish, just like figuring out Deckard was a replicant in Blade Runner.
shareWait, he was Jewish?
shareApparently, I’m still looking into this
shareI may need to re-watch. Next 7/4, I'll pay attention closely to this character specifically and see if I can spot any details to support this assertion.
shareThat’s what’s great about Independence Day, the more you watch it the more you pick up on things. The characters are deeply layered and you really have to pay attention to truly understand them .
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