How Can Anyone Dislike This Movie?
i'm watching it now and man it's just pure funny/cheesy 90's entertainment. it's a summer blockbuster at it's best.
Yeah. Sometimes I just wanna watch $hIt blow up.
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MovieChat Forums > Independence Day (1996) Discussion > How Can Anyone Dislike This Movie?
"How Can Anyone Dislike This Movie?", you ask? Well, let me count the ways. This is one of the worst movies I have every seen, sci-fi, or in any category, and in any number of ways. The "spectacular" special effects were its one distinguishing feature, and even this was so over-the-top as to become ridiculous and, yes, even boring.
The writing was devoid of any intelligence or depth, the characters and characterizations were empty and adolescent, at best, and many of the actors could not only not handle the impossible inanity of what they were trying to deal with, but they even seemed to give up trying. There seemed to be no character development of any value here, whatsoever, and the comedic asides seemed to be disjointed from the "plot" rather than enhancing it in any way. It's a shame that so many otherwise talented people wasted their time, and that of the audience, who should have gotten something even minimally rewarding for their time and/or price of admission, but got nothing but this pile of idiotic nonsense, instead.
I enjoy a good sci-fi film, even if its fantasy extends into the absurd and far-far-fetched - so long as there is some payoff, some message of significance, some portrayal of what might or could possibly be, some character development that draws the viewer into the story and provides some basis for caring about what's going on on screen. This film, for me, at least, provided none of this, and it turned into a struggle to even watch this film to its end (and I was tempted, on more than one occasion, to just leave, but watched only in hope that things would improve - which they didn't).
This is one of those rare films that I ultimately found was a complete waste of time to watch.
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This is such a stupid post. "I'll bet your wife is ugly" is the such a bottom-of-the-barrel AOL chatroom insult. And thinking a movie sucks or expecting more out of a movie doesn't mean anything. The fact that you're defending Independence Day with a signature touting your self-defense skills is really bizarre and it's the kind of post I'd blank out the names on and share with my friends because I love me some zealots peppering their defenses of crappy movies with bad insults and threats of violence.
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Man, what a dumb post.
What exactly does "real critics watch it for what it was meant to be" mean? Wasn't it "meant to be" a dumb summer blockbuster? So watching it for those qualities, then you cannot help but notice how ridiculously dumb it is. If I recall correctly, this movie received mixed reviews at the time of release anyway, so most "real" critics agreed with the person you were responding to.
And as a vehicle of simple and pure entertainment it was hugely successful at accomplishing that.
Yeah, a "simple" movie for simple-minded people. Not exactly a huge accomplishment. I don't see why we can't expect our summer blockbusters to be both entertaining and good quality filmmaking beyond special effects. Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders of the lost Ark, E.T., Die Hard, Terminator 2, Jurassic Park, these are examples of successful blockbusters we should be requesting.
It turned Wiill Smith into a mega star.
Gag. I liked Men in Black, but most of Will SMith's movies are awful.
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Not everything needs to be the next Citizen Kane. If this was something high brow that got turn into mindless entertainment. Then i might agree with you. But this not a movie you watch for compelling acting or sweeping storytelling. You watch it to have fun and watch sh!t get blown up. And its differently not meant to be taken seriously.
shareAnd it was a rip off of War Of The Worlds. Aliens invading the earth is cliché to begin with. Close Encounters on the other hand broke new ground. So did Star Trek 4 because it had aliens who were not here to contact humans.
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Wow. You ask an awful lot from an action/adventure sci fi pic. The very fact that you are watching fiction means you will need to suspend disbelief. That you're choosing sci fi means an even higher level of suspension. Add in the action/adventure factor and you have to know you are in for the most over the top special effects they film makers could supply.
If you go into any such movie without expecting that at the minimum, you are deluding yourself. And no actor is going to turn in an Oscar worthy performance on an action/adventure sci fi flick, so don't go looking for stellar performances, or in depth character development for that matter.
If you choose to watch movies in this particular category, you get stuff like this, and for what it is, Independence Day is awesome. It's a wild ride of explosions, aliens, special effects, one liners and sappy speeches. It's pure fun. And it doesn't pretend to be any more than that.
Sometimes you have to stop over thinking and just sit back and enjoy the ride.
I would feel sorry for movie producers if you were a professional critic. Geez. This movie was so fun. Fun and games. Some people have to take everything so serious. This was the best sci-fi movie in the 90's hands down.
shareCheesy 90's entertainment sucked. It would be remembered as a b-film if it wasn't for the promotion of the producers and the "legitimacy" that Hollywood stars give to the film.
Oh, and anytime Jeff Goldblum opens his mouth about science and technology he becomes an insufferable ass. He's a terrible actor and his rants are largely dimwitted.
Because of film snobs like those 2 jerks who said this was the worst film ever made because they like to act like they're smart and know everything about film. I'd just put them both on ignore with all the other trolls.
Green Goblin is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1L4ZuaVvaw
Apparently, GreenGoblinsOckVenom86, you consider what you call, "film snobs" to be those who have something that you lack - GOOD TASTE! You are obviously one of those airheads who will lap up whatever crap is placed in front of them, devour it without discrimination or consideration, and walk away satisfied with their "meal". It is precisely the non-discriminating such as yourself that Hollywood thrives on turning out crap like this, and raking in the gazillions in ill-gotten gains. I'm actually glad to have read your little piece of nonsense because it gives me an even greater confidence in my ability to separate the wheat from the chaff. Chaff, anyone!
Yeah, I think "snob" pretty much nailed it.
shareCan't a movie just be fun sometimes? What's so wrong with that? Independence Day is one of my favorite movies. I respectfully disagree with what was said by the prior poster.
shareOf course, a movie can just be fun; I just watched Edgar Wright's The World's End last week and loved it.
AND, it wasn't stupid; I.D. is.
So you don't think something can be fun and stupid at the same time. I guess you haven't seen many movies or don't understand the concept "So Bad its Good".
shareThat's a hugely snobbish comment, romarub. I have over 1,700 movies in my collection, everything from great foreign films and cinematic classics, to mindless blockbusters like this one and I like them all. Your attitude about Independence Day is not as impressive as you seem to think it is. So-called "good taste" does not mean that the ONLY films one is allowed to view are those that either send some kind of deep message or are cinematic classics that would be taught in a college film course. SOME people enjoy a $400 dinner at a fine restaurant and may also like a trip through a McDonald's drive-thru once in awhile.
In short, get over yourself.
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That described them perfectly. Bunch over serious snobs who think every movie should be made to Oscar potential. I swear they better have a hot wife, with geniuses for children with that snobby, everything has to be perfect or it's a waste of time bs attitude.
State champ in martial arts, trained with firearms, I eFF'n dare you!
Making a bad point twice in the same thread doesn't make it a good point, no matter how many cool dudes you're expecting to come by and go HRRR, HE'S RAAAGHT
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Yeah, those guys are such film snobs.
Patrice O'Neal and Jim Norton did a pretty good(and funny) job explaining why(even though they thought the first part of the movie was great): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZevpfEK5k
shareLove that clip, Listened to it live the day they talked about it. Love ONA.
shareYou ask and I'll reply. I don't like movies that attempt to be multi-genre. I want my Sci-Fi serious and my comedies funny; this film , in my opinion, fits neither category. I do, though, subscribe to the old adage that what's one person's meat, is another's poison. There's a movie from the past, The Black Shield of Falworth that I dearly love, but which rates poorly.
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Well said, Big Mac, it's pure hokum and great fun. I remember saying when it came out - what, the world is going to be saved by the Fresh Prince, Lone Star from Spaceballs and the blue furry thing from Earth Girls Are Easy? Fantastic! Nobody could possibly take it seriously.
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