Is this the movie where Eric Roberts has a urination problem due to emotional issues? My mom told me about a movie where he killed a family using some sort of nerve drug and Eric urinated himself.
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While I have not seen this version of In Cold Blood, I can tell you that you must be thinking of another movie. The family was killed by shotgun, not a nerve drug.
shareWell Perry smith did share in the nonfiction novel, In Cold Blood, to Capote that he had a bedwetting problem as a youth, and a youth worker abused him for having the problem. Maybe that's where you're getting the enuresis from? well, not that you have it... hope this helps.
shareI've never seen the movie or read the book, but I know the story because the victims were my boyfriend's family members.
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Hi there, Silentobserver! Sorry it took me so long to respond... life gets in the way sometimes. My boyfriend is 27, so he's far removed at this point. But I believe that the Clutter family were related to his Grandfather. He and Herbert Clutter were cousins. So that would make them my boyfriend's 3rd cousins. We're both from Ohio and so have never visited the farm where it happened. Ironically, he had to read the book for a high school english class. The teacher asked him if he was related and he told her yes.
I haven't really told anyone about it. It never really comes up... I mean, how many people talk to YOU about In Cold Blood? :) But when it does, I tell them and mainly they just say, "Oh really?" and things like that. Nothing major. In fact, you're the first to have any kind of extensive questions. :)
If you've read every article, book, and website then you've done far more research than I have. I have yet to read the book, but I have the added bonus of my boyfriend. I'm going to read it just as soon as I'm done with the book I'm currently reading. My boyfriend says it's a good book and I should read it... so I suppose I will.
I understand your curiosity. I think I would be too if I did as much research as you.
As I said, he's I believe a cousin of the family, and he told me what happened to them (horrific, yes). He also said that his grandmother and grandfather know more about it. I don't think it bothers him enough to get upset because he never knew them, but just the thought of their being family is enough I suppose for anyone to think about. But as far as being upset or trying to forget or that kind of thing... it doesn't effect him in that way. But that's not to say that it doesn't effect others of his family more deeply.
If you have any other questions, you can e-mail me at [email protected]. I can relay them to my boyfriend and then back to you if you'd like.
Nice to know someone cares so much about things that happened in the past good or bad.
I too, am related to the Clutters. I am formerly from Ohio, however my last name isn't Clutter. My grandfather was a first cousin of James, Herbert's father. I guess that makes me a third cousin also. I think that makes me related to your boyfriend.
Have him PM me at [email protected] & we can compare family notes.
i know alot about this crime just like you silentobserver, in fact ive traveled all the way
from florida to kansas in 1996 to see the house hoping to get the grand tour,
but that was not to be, because mrs mader said that a few years back they
stopped giving 5 dollar tours. so i traveled to valley view cemetery in
garden city and took pics of the clutter graves, spoke to the sexton there.
drove to lansing and saw perry and dicks graves. the sexton there knew just
what i wanted as soon as i spoke of their names, and took me right to where
they were buried.
ive got all three movies, numerous books and documentaries and garden citys
cd rom they sell, along with a three ring binder full of articles from the
witchita eagle and other newspaper and magazines including lifes magazine of
1967 with truman and robert blake and scott wilson on the front cover.
i know this crime and talked to various people connected to this crime, big
and small.alive and dead, i know all the facts like the back of my hand. this research of mine has consumed over half my life,really since the time of high
school when we had to read in cold blood in english class,like most of the
kids of my time had to do.
if you have any questions to which you need anwsers, feel free to contact me.
glenn
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I also have followed this story with interest ever since I read the book some 30yrs ago. Not out of morbid curiosity, but because the incident, which would have shocked any major city at the time, brought to an end the innocence of a small rural community in such a brutal and terrifying manner.
In the past, with few other sources available, I had always relied on Capote's book as my main source of information on the subject, forgetting, as most do, that it is a non fiction novel. As a result, while I thought the fate of the Clutter family was tragic and senseless, I found myself sympathetic towards Perry Smith. The original movie, although well done, saw the Clutters as more of a backdrop to the story of the murderers.
The advent of the internet has in the past few years given me access to factual information, and an insight into the subject which has allowed me to see that the book was biased because of Capote’s feelings toward Perry.
But I am still always looking for information on the subject to offset the long held images implanted by the book, and maybe you can provide that since you have actually traveled to the locations.
For example, it is generally believed that Floyd Wells lied to Hickock about seeing a safe containing $10,000 in the house when he worked there in 1948. But I have since read somewhere that there was a preexisting farmhouse on the land which did in fact contain a safe, and that Herbert Clutter had built the present house about 10yrs before the murders, which would have been around the time of Wells’ employment (Capote mentions Mr. Clutter building the house in his book, but not in relation to Wells’ time there, and he does not mention an older building). Also, while it was known that Mr.Clutter did not usually keep large sums of money on hand, he may have had that kind of money available at that time to pay for building materials for the new house.
When viewed in this light, if it had been built after his departure and he was not aware of the existence of the new farmhouse, Wells would have been telling Hickock about the old house, and therefore telling the truth about the safe and money as he knew it. While it does not lessen the senselessness of the murders, if this was the case at least they were not triggered by a childish lie told by one con to impress another.
I don't know if the older building was situated elsewhere on the property, or if it was torn down and the new house built on the site, but did you hear of this while you were in the area, or does it sound possible to you?
mdy, the time frame is 1948-49 when floyd wells worked for Mr.
Clutter and was the same time the house was built, 1948.
there might have been a safe in the old house, its possible.
i dont believe theirs much imformation on the first house.
but ive got imformation that the Clutter house is now up for
sale to the highest bidder.open house is september 17th and
october 8th.
Glenn
For example, it is generally believed that Floyd Wells lied to Hickock about seeing a safe containing $10,000 in the house when he worked there in 1948. But I have since read somewhere that there was a preexisting farmhouse on the land which did in fact contain a safe, and that Herbert Clutter had built the present house about 10yrs before the murders, which would have been around the time of Wells’ employment (Capote mentions Mr. Clutter building the house in his book, but not in relation to Wells’ time there, and he does not mention an older building). Also, while it was known that Mr.Clutter did not usually keep large sums of money on hand, he may have had that kind of money available at that time to pay for building materials for the new house.
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To the OP...this is probably the movie you're mom meant but has her facts a bit mixed up. He shotguns them to death but there is a scene where he has a flashback to his childhood where he wets the bed and when he comes to he's left a damp spot on the chair he was sitting on.
shareIf you are interested in a little additional information, read Mockingbird: A Portrait of Harper Lee by Charles J. Shields. There is a good bit of information about Harper's trip to Kansas with Truman Capote, and some things she learned about Nancy Clutter that were not included in the book. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but apparently the Clutter family was not all roses and sunshine. According to this book, Mr. Clutter ruled the roost with an iron hand, with little thought for the thoughts and feelings of his children. Remember how he flatly told Nancy she couldn't marry Bobby Rupp, no matter how much she loved him, because the Rupps were Catholic? Further, according to Nancy's home economics teacher, Nancy once started sobbing and said, "You just don't know what's it like to live in that house."
Capote elected not to put any of this in the book because he wanted to present an idyllic version of the Clutter family.
I think EVERY Eric Roberts movie features him having a urination problem related to emotional issues; not his fault, and I cast no aspersions on his talent, but he just looks like he wets the bed every night.
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