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What of the three stories do you like the most?


I like the Sissy Spacek story. Do you?

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I love that one best too - because she has the most reasons to abort the baby (college, her age, early retirement, messing up her whole family's life), but doesn't.

Both Demi Moore and Anne Heche were single and could have went away and had quiet adoptions take place, but chose not to for their own selfish reasons.

Demi Moore's was that, "What would I tell people?". Anne Heche's attitude was that she made a mistake and shouldn't have to pay for it, especially when she could just go to the clinic anytime and have an abortion. Sissy Spacek's character didn't have that option available, but still chose not to have an abortion.

What was your reason for liking the Sissy Spacek story best?




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Both Demi Moore and Anne Heche were single and could have went away and had quiet adoptions take place, but chose not to for their own selfish reasons.


Well, both were not exactly rich. I don't think they were in a position to just pack up and leave for a while.

And as for Demi's character being selfish, I politely disagree. First of all, having a love child was not nearly as acceptable in that time as it is now. And if she chose to keep the child, he/she would be ostracized just as much. After all, the town looked like the type where word got around fast. True, there is the whole giving up for adoption thing, but as mentioned, I don't think she had the money to just run off, give birth, and then go back to her life. Let's not forget how much trouble she had paying for the $400 abortion. I'm sure traveling would have costed much more. So, I don't think Demi was being selfish for thinking about the long run. After all, it wouldn't have been best for either of them.

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I'd say Demi Moore's character had a good reason also. She was living in 1952. Society could be brutal back then. She was a widow left all alone and all she had was her late husband's family. And after she told her sister-in-law, the sister-in-law turned on her. So she could probably only imagine how everyone else would react. She was not only going to be scorned by society but scorned by the only family she had. It had to be terrifying for her to realize by having this baby, she'd lose everyone she had.

Anne Heche's character, living in 1996, probably had the least excuse to have the abortion.

My favorite story was the first one starring Demi Moore. Because that's what it was really like back then. The storyline is just intense and you really feel Demi's character's loneliness and isolation. Her husband was really all she had, and now that he was dead, she just had his extended family.

The ending of that segment was intense also. They don't actually show what ultimately happens to Demi Moore's character, but think about it. She's bleeding to death from a bad abortion, calls an ambulance, but then out of FEAR, throws the phone across the room. And back then, emergency services could not trace calls. I think it can be pretty well assumed that she dies. Intense. Of course, they leave it up to the viewer to imagine what happens, but I imagine she dies. Because the fear of society finding out in that time was SO strong. Society was just mean.

I was still reeling from that story for a few minutes after the Sissy Spacek story started.

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She didn't throw the phone across the room, she dropped it and definitely not out of fear, maybe you should go back and watch that scene again. it is clear that she is losing consciousness. She's too weak to say anything else but 'I need your help'. She fainted from the blood loss and likely died.

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I can't believe people like you watch this movie and have no sympathy for Demi Moore. She obviously could NOT go away and quietly have the baby, that would mean she would have to leave for 7 months! She'd lose her job and everyone she knew would be able to put two and two together and understand she had gone off to have a baby, which was very shameful back then. I don't think you realize the gravity of her situation. She was a widow, and her only family was the family of her dead husband. We are shown that she has a very close relationship with her mother in law and her sister in law (at least until the latter finds out about her pregnancy). Her husband had died 6 months ago, and her husbands family would be hurt and appalled if they found out she had already gone and slept with someone. They would never forgive her. Back then it was taboo for women to have children out of wedlock, and I suppose it would be even worse to get knocked up less than 6 months after your husband died.

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I know it's a little late for me to be replying to this but still...

My favorite story out of the 3 is the Demi Moore one because when I watch that story, more emotions come over me than the others (and I love to get emotional with movies). When I think of the way she must have felt knowing she was pregnant under the circumstances (even though she could have prevented it from happening), the way she must have felt searching desperately for any help she could find on getting the abortion, and the way she must have felt after she gets the abortion and is left on her kitchen table asking "am I okay?" with no one there to answer... oh I am overwhelmed with sympathy for her character. Oh and when she tries to give herself the abortion.. my goodness!.. ouch

I love the other 2 stories just as much though. Sissy Spaceck's character barely had enough time to tell her husband about the pregnancy, let alone enough time to raise a baby. And when Cher is crying when she is getting ready for work, I cry too.

Oh its SUCH a great movie. I've seen it many times, but I just recently (heh.. about 10 minutes ago) made my mom sit and watch it. I was surprised that she didn't like it. She said the first and last stories were too much for her to handle and she felt so bad for Sissy Spaceck's character (since she cant even imagine having ANOTHER kid after she's already plotted out her future and cant imagine having to deal with such a big change) ok well i'll shut up now

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i like segment three

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I like Demi Moore's story as well. Actually showing what happened back in the 50's with illegal abortions really hit harder.
I am planning to show the Demi Moore part in my women's studies tutorial; do you think that will be a good example??

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I think that would be a great idea

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By far the most effective and upsetting of the three was the Demi Moore story, "1952." It captures perfectly the hyprocritical era of the 50s (which I was born into) where you are loved only if you conform. Moore here does the only genuinely real acting I have ever seen her do; anyone who doubts her abilities should look at her work here. What is also good about this episode are the questions it raises--how will Claire's death impact the community around her? The brother-in-law/parent will be devastated; the Donnellys will be too, especially sister-in-law Becky who will figure out the truth; so too will the doctor/employer who dismissed her concern and the coworker who tried to help, brilliant played by CCH Pounder. It would have been interesting to carry this drama forward.

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Segment 1 and 3 were the most powerful. I always wondered though, does Demi Moore's character die in the end of that segment? They end the scene with her on the floor with the phone and a puddle of blood around her, but then what? If anyone can answer I'd appreciate it.

we all go a little mad sometimes

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Yes, and if Roe V. Wade is overturned, I can see what happened to Claire happening to a lot of women in real life.

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Yes, and if Roe V. Wade is overturned, I can see what happened to Claire happening to a lot of women in real life.


Don't make me laugh. You say many women in real life nowadays would break the law and have an illegal abortion? I don't think so. There are more options for birth control available today than there ever were for Claire in the 1950's. If a woman chooses not to take a birth control pill, then I really can't see her choosing to have an unsterilized scalpel stuck into her on a kitchen table.

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Some pharmacists believe that life begins at conception, thus they refuse to do their jobs by dispensing the morning after pill. Recently in Tucson, a woman who had been raped was denied emergency contraceptives on these grounds.

Besides, not everyone can afford birth control pills. Roe V. Wade being overturned could create a similar climate as before it was enacted: wealthy women would be able to travel to nations where abortion is legal, and those without such means would be forced to find alternatives.

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Roe V. Wade being overturned could create a similar climate as before it was enacted: wealthy women would be able to travel to nations where abortion is legal,those without such means would be forced to find alternatives.


Like adoption? Wealthy women also have the means to travel to a country where adopting a baby is easy, as babies being put up for adoption are more plentiful. But not everyone can afford a trip like that to have an international adoption. Maybe if women gave up their babies for adoption instead of leaving the country to abort them, those who can't afford to leave the country to adopt would still be able to have a child to raise. Solutions to such seemingly complex social problems are right before our eyes.


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I think you are misunderstanding the posters preceeding you, marilin65. What they are saying is that making abortion illegal would not deter women who really wished to have one from doing so. You seem to be saying that people are missing out on the solutions to the complex social problem of abortion because so many women choose abortion over options like adoption. What then in your scenario would keep them from abortions when they become illegal? Even if you think that making abortion illegal again would cause for the sort of low quality, back-alley abortions to occur again, it still doesn't neccessarily follow that women would be completely deterred. Yes, there are plenty more birth control options from which people can choose, but that doesn't mean that making abortion illegal would automatically make various birth control options accessible to all women. Also, it is very well known that condoms can help prevent the spread of STDs and that contracting HIV is still more often than not a certain death sentence. However, it is a widespread occurence that people don't use condoms at all, and condoms are much more available and accessible to people in general. Why then would a woman faced with the choice of an illegal abortion be more likely to choose birth control or adoption than a person who knows it is a possibility that they could contract a fatal disease would be to choose to wear a condom? Basically what I am saying is that it is completely comprehensible that people would have back alley abortions if it was made illegal because people continuously make risky decisions that put them in harm's way or have great consequences. Making abortion illegal will not change the minds of people having unprotected sex for various reasons and it will not neccessarily change the minds of those who feel themselves to be in a desperate enough situation.

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Based on the acting quality, I'd personally rank Sissy Spacek's segment first, Demi Moore's second, and Anne Heche's third. I'm basing this not on the decision which any of the three women made but on the acting quality of each segment.

While I'd rate both Sissy and Demi individually at 10, I just thought that overall the supporting cast in Sissy's segment was stronger, in showing a rather likeable family but one that could still definitely frazzle a mother's nerves. I'd rate Anne Heche at maybe a 7 or an 8, quite good but not comparable to Sissy or Demi.

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The first one, with Demi Moore. I think she does a -wonderful- job.
In fact, I usually only watch that one. Not that I don't like the rest of the film, but I just love that first entry.
It really touches me.
If I have a half hour to kill & am feeling emotional, I'll pop the DVD in & watch her story (the first one). I really love it that much.

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I liked the first and last stories. They were more fitting for the movie. The second story made no sense. Why have an abortion while you are married? I don't think her hubby would have gone for that. She had all the support and babysitters she needed to take care of another crumbsnatcher.

Sum of the posters act like the Etainers R paying their bills. It ain't that crucial.

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I am married as well and already have a 2 year old. My recent abortion was 2 weeks ago. The reason for terminating my pregnancy at 13 weeks gestation was because I have a serious health condition. Abortion is not always an easy decision, it was a very difficult decision, especially for me and my spouse. If I did not have a health problem, of course I would keep the baby.

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The second story made no sense. Why have an abortion while you are married?

Plenty of reasons - financial, unplanned pregnancy, Health / age issues, family planning - just off the top of my head. My mother is married, but with four children already I'm absolutely sure if she became pregnant she would have an abortion, since the youngest is now 16, and she has no desire to commit herself to another 18 years of children at home, even if she could afford to.

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Agreed. my mom and dad already had me but I had multiple health issues and my parents were older when they had my brother. They were not certain if my mother could successfully carry to term or if my brother would survive.

people trying to criminalize abortion make light of the infrastructure needed for 'life'.

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Just bc she has kids does not mean they were going to babysit. THe oldest was planning on going off to college and financial aid existed by then. She would not be around. Likewise neither would the others in a couple of years.

She also was trying to go back to school and earn her degrees.

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I liked all stories. We start with Demi, Then to Sissy then to Anne Heche. I loved all 3 women. They each different personalities and were dramatic in every sense.
My personal favourite character was Diana Scarwid. "I'm Jewish" great line.

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I liked the Cher story. She's a great actress. They were all great. It was a good flick. It took a good look at a tough issue. People are too quick to judge, but this is not the place to have a debate. All I gots to say is "walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them".
The movie was great.

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Because of Jason London I liked the 50's segement the
best.Even though he was in barely two scenes.Odd too,that
year on his 24th birthday his daughter Cooper was born.
And he and his twin Jeremy were born in November 1972
around the time Roe Vs Wade made abortion legal again.
How odd!

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