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Sympathy for 'Miss Solanas'? are you kidding?

posted 16 years ago by guitar_fun
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I can't believe many of these posts. She didn't just insult, spit in his face or sue him, SHE SHOT HIM. He didn't make money off of her crap, he was just being kind to take it. I bet he never even read it. When did it become alright to shoot someone because you feel they did you wrong? I've read the S.C.U.M Manifesto as well, it is no great work. It is the product of a raving lunatic. Whatever you think of Andy, he gave people opportunities. It worked out for Lou Reed. In fact, she was trying to use him.

[–] paultagonist 16 years ago

Yeah I didn't feel sorry for her at all. She concocted some kind of schizophrenic conspiracy out of nothing, and people got hurt by her instability. Andy Warhol seemed like he was being nice and putting up with a lot of her bullsh~t raving.

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[–] disturbedtool68 15 years ago

"99% of that film was fictionalized yet ppl think it was all real-- that she was this brilliant, misunderstood genius who was given the cold shoulder by Warhol. "

wow, I didnt get that at all from the film

Brilliant? by writing about a piece of crap, and about cutting up men?

lol hardly brilliant and the film didnt show her as brilliant but rather very naive

misunderstood genius? really? you think the film made her look like a genius?

lol - nothing genius about her. I have no doubt she was misunderstood, that she lived on the streets therefore had street smarts.

but nothing in this movie made her look like a genius - more like a blabbering psychopath who hated men.. is that genius?

And the film certainly didnt make it look like Warhol just gave her the cold shoulder.

From the film, I see that he tried to help her, tried to get her to do something for a little money, put her in one of his films, had others read her script, then even in the end was very nice and complimentary towards her

what movie are you talking about?

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[–] love_platipus 14 years ago

I don't think the film was encouraging us to take her message seriously, at all. I think they were just presenting a character.

[–] worldofbong 15 years ago

there's a lot of psychotic, messed up people in the world, so of course they're gonna sympathize and identify with her. they're probably as loony as she was

but then again, i'm not so sure, lol - http://www.theslutsmovie.com

[–] illmatic2001 15 years ago

I understand OP's point but I still feel that this is a strong film with a great character (fictionalized or not).

[–] aboutthisproduct 15 years ago

I agree with disturbed.
Does anyone here actually understand how terrible and treatable schizophrenia is?
The only problem is the meds and doctors cost thousands each month and most insurance companies then and now will not pay for medication and proper treatment. So basically due to are system you are going to have raving "lunatics" that could be helped if the system was not so greedy. What she did is wrong but there are so many people like her on the street that should have gotten help.

[–] Grimm-Grimm 14 years ago

Maybe if Andy Warhole wasn't such a pretentious prick of an artist and human being, then people would have more sympathy for him instead.

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[–] Benedict_Cumberbatch 12 years ago

I'm not a big Warhol fan either, but the point is - he didn't try to kill anyone, unlike Valerie Solanas. Anyone who has more sympathy for her instead is, as the great Elle Woods would say, "seriously disturbed" (like Solanas herself).

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[–] smjensen312-158-669840 11 years ago

There is a fundamental lack of empathy for males in the contemporary Anglosphere- for all the talk of a "war against women" (mostly Republican politicians taking their anti-abortion posturing to ridiculous lengths and inviting well deserved ridicule in the process) there's far more hostility toward males. Imagine a reversal of the sexes here- a psychotic misogynist writes a screed calling for the extermination of the female sex and artificial reproduction via artificial uteri and production of ova, and he shoots an overrated but highly commercial female artist. It would not only have generated far more outcry (it would have made the cover of "People" and probably "Time" and "Newsweek" as well). And no one would express sympathy for the assailant, no matter how wretched his childhood had been, no matter how badly he had been treated by women.

[–] Benedict_Cumberbatch 11 years ago

Well said.

"The fundamental things apply, as time goes by."

[–] denise1234 10 years ago

smjensen312-158-669840^

Bravo!

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[–] CinemaRomeo 10 years ago

The simple fact is that men should be eliminated from the human race. The vast majority of the murders, rapes, tortures, etc. are conducted by men. Men have held progress and civilization back. The world would be so much better if it were ruled by women and only contained women.

I say this as a man myself...

[–] smjensen312-158-669840 9 years ago

Well, move to Oregon or the Netherlands, where assisted suicide is legal. No one's stopping you.

[–] CinemaRomeo 9 years ago

But that's only in the case of terminal illnesses. I'll have to do it the old-fashioned way...

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