Anyone read the book?


And is it as dark as the film?

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Yes, and it's actually far darker.

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Okay thank you.

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I've reviewed the book here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1754819324
and
https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2QUAG0JLNB4EN/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

I fell in love when I first read the novel in my mid-teens, c. 1980-81. I was the geeky girl who studied Latin, Greek and French, read Villon for fun, and was intent on studying mediæval history. He is the geeky boy who was always first into lectures and last to leave; who knew Latin, Greek and Hebrew, and studied in every Faculty of the University by 20; who had his own alchemical laboratory, and got excited talking about incunabula and theurgy...


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And much better.
The Disney film is a hideous travesty.

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Nope but I imagine that it would be darker since Disney likes to makes films like this more kid friendly for the kids

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I'm not gonna spoil anything, but you'd be surprised how dark it is. It goes much deeper into Frollo's mindset, and the ending, ooh boy.

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Do you read German? If so, there's a good academic essay on Claude available as a booklet: Claude Frollo als Typus des romantischen Helden in Victor Hugos "Notre-Dame de Paris" by Alissa Carolin Roller.

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The film is a travesty that distorts and changes the characters. Quasimodo is only a supporting character: Shoberl changed the title of the book (it's Notre Dame de Paris) in his early (unauthorised) English translation and gives a misleading impression of his importance. It was inspired partly by Scott's Quentin Durward and partly by Lewis's The Monk, but is far more complex psychologically – more like Dostoevskii at times, especially re: its tragic hero/anti-hero. Monsieur the Archdeacon of Josas still breaks my heart every time.

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Quasimodo is one of the main characters.

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Of course it is an excellent book. Well worth anyone's time. At one point the author goes up to the bell tower (roof top?) and takes a 360 view around Paris. It's Hugo reminiscing about the Paris of old for about 20 pages. It has nothing to do with the plot so some editions will edit it out. And yes, it's much darker but still a love story with a sad but beautiful ending.



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At the end of the book, Esmerelda dies and her body is thrown in a massive grave. Quasi then kills Frollo in retaliation before going into the grave with Esmerelda's body and embracing her corpse. Then then starves to death there, never leaving her side. Years later, when the tomb in open, people try to separate the two skeletons, and they crumble together into dust. So, yeah, it's pretty dark and twisted.

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The film is a travesty compared to the novel.

If you think the Claude as featured here is complex, you will adore his literary counterpart; though, the film version has been so stripped of his complexity that they are hardly the same character.

In the novel, Claude begins as an 'austere and morose,' but all the while compassionate, young man who was placed into the priesthood by his parents. He raises his brother in love, spoils him and fails to discipline him properly, and adopts Quasimodo out of charity rather than out of necessity. He is erudite, a scholar and an academic, whose chiefest interests fall to hermetic alchemy. His fall from grace is a beautiful and terrible thing; he does not begin a villain, nor does he truly end one.

Quasimodo, likewise, is not an innocent being. He is not confined to the belltower by anything but his own volition, and often embarks on ventures outside with Claude. He is simple, and violent, and very much horrid to all those whom he does not adore, which, conveniently, is everyone save for his master and for Esmeralda.

You may no longer enjoy the film after reading the book; I didn't. It is a mockery of something brilliant.

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Personally, that is why I never really rated the Disney version particularly high on my animated films list Disney or otherwise. While the Disney version is enjoyable and has a dark and sinister vibe despite the fact that they sanitized the story for children, I always liked the Charles Laughton version better than the Disney version but of course the Laughton film is often seen as the best screen version of the novel even though it also took some liberties and even had an influence on the Disney version in some ways such as the character designs, especially Frollo and maybe it was just me, but Esmeralda's design in the Charles Laughton version was an influence on the Disney version. Of course, I need to get a chance to watch the Lon Chaney version and speaking of the Lon Chaney version, I read that in both it and a ballet version Phoebus is good like in the Disney version and I think both of those versions influenced Disney in that sense. Though Gringoire is present in the Chaney version, I think the ballet also merged Phoebus with Gringoire like the Disney version did. All the same, I would welcome a version of Hunchback that stays completely true to the novel with no liberties. Phoebus surviving and ending up in an unhappy marriage would be fine, but if we got a modern day version where Frollo succeeds in killing him as well as Esmeralda getting executed and Quasimodo starving himself to death by Esmeralda's corpse after he kills Frollo would be fine. If in this hypothetical version, the only person who survives is Gringoire, that would make perfect sense. Honestly, while in the book Phoebus gets what he deserves by having to deal with an unhappy marriage, if Frollo successfully killed him in the book, I would've kind of liked that better too. Another detail I almost forgot was that I believe Frollo was a judge in the Laughton version and if we get a version where Frollo is a priest and they keep his lust towards Esmeralda intact, that would be fine with me. I hear some fans of the source material say the Anthony Quinn version of Hunchback the most faithful to the novel more so than any other version including the Laughton version, I have never seen it but I do recall reading that both Quasimodo and Esmeralda die in that version but since it's seemingly out of print, there is almost no way I can check it out.

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I've read it and I love the book. I still love the movie though, I don't quite understand purist bumholes that doesn't understand that this is a DISNEY adaptation.

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