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What a pile of smokin' crap


Did the idiot screenwriter even BOTHER to read the book to adapt it? James Lee Burke has developed some of the most unique characters and dialogue and this brain dead hollywood sellout ruined all of it.

Now, I know that Hollywood adaptations (with the exception of No Country for Old Men, Shawshank, and the Green Mile) are usually crap. But my God in heaven! If I was James Lee Burke and I saw this pile of *expletive* come out, I'd change my name.

And no, it's NOT Alec Baldwin's best performance. It is, and will always be, The Hunt for Red October. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

UGH!!

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And no, it's NOT Alec Baldwin's best performance. It is, and will always be, The Hunt for Red October. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Pinning down Baldwin's best performance is a tricky thing. The guy is damned talented. However, saying one movie is, "and always will be", his best performance is kinda nutty.

His scene in Glengarry Glen Ross was kind of incredible. The scene in The Edge where he's about to shoot Anthony Hopkins really blew me away. That's the scene that made me realize he's gifted. (Kind of like watching Primal Fear before Ed Norton was anybody, and then later watching him turn into a totally different person in American History X.)

I didn't see this movie. I just wanted to comment on your statement that Baldwin's performance in Red October can never be topped. :)

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I totally agree about The Edge! When he sits in the cabin loading his gun and says to Hopkins: "You had now bussiness with that broad anyway"...his performance just pulls you in, and that whole movie just showed me what a great actor he is.

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I completely agree. It's such an amazing book, after I read it I thought "how can a film based on this possibly be bad?" And then I saw it and yeah, they butchered it. Everything about it was handled poorly, especially the dialogue/

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"I know that Hollywood adaptations (with the exception of No Country for Old Men, Shawshank, and the Green Mile) are usually crap."

Really? Movies Hollywood adapts from books are "usually crap"? Hmm.

The Godfather
Gone with the Wind
From Here to Eternity
The Graduate
2001
Double Indemnity
Jaws
MASH
The Wizard of Oz
The Haunting
The Big Sleep
Wonder Boys
The Talented Mr. Ripley
Sense & Sensibility
The Maltese Falcon
Trainspotting
Psycho
Don't Look Now
Fight Club
Rosemary's Baby
Get Shorty
Frankenstein
The Manchurian Candidate
Rebecca
The Long Goodbye
The Age of Innocence
Lolita
The Exorcist

Really, I don't know why I'm even bothering.

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And here's just some of Elmore Leonards works that have been turned into movie's
Classic's

3:10 to Yuma (1957)(2007)
The Tall T (1957)
Hombre (1967)
Valdez Is Coming (1971)
Joe Kidd (1972)
Mr. Majestyk (1974)
Get Shorty (1995)
Jackie Brown (1997)

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I strongly disagree. I didn't know there was a book and don't care. I love movies and have lots and lots. I really enjoyed this movie and soundtrack. It's just a movie. All movies do not have to be like the book,just entertaining to the one that watches it.So you didn't like it. Too bad. Lighten up.

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As a foreigner, I thought I gave a real feeling for New Orleans, along with those other New Orleans thrillers that I also enjoyed: Angel Heart; Interview With The Vampire and The Big Easy... there's just something about the place that works so well in films with dirty deeds and morally compromised people.

But you ARE Blanche ... and I AM.

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I mean yeah, ok it's not a good movie, but I caught like 75% of this last night and found it to be so trashy it was entertaining.

I didn't quite understand the whole bit with the little girl, but most of the rest of it made sense. I couldn't sleep, so this kidn of entertain crap at 4 in the morning is fun.

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Even if it wasn't based on a book, it'd be terrible because of the unbelievably inept script. Every character (especially the good guys) makes every wrong dumb move they possibly can (the murderous gangsters are threatening you? Well piss them off further by all means and make sure not to take any security measures or precaution to keep you, your family and your completely exposed isolated house safe). Also, in an even remotely real world, Baldwin would be in jail for not reporting the kid after he finds her (how the hell did they just get to keep her???) and for murder after that chase scene that ends with the tram crash. He is technically just a civilian, but apparently he really did think he was still a freaking cop. He had NOTHING on the guy he was chasing that could pass in the court of law as hard evidence and since he got the guy (who was unarmed at the time, by the way) killed, that'd be a clear case of some kind of murder or manslaughter with a bunch of eyewitnesses that could testify that the dead guy was both unarmed and running for his life from the maddened armed Baldwin. I though Baldwin was in his place to simply cap him, vigilante style, but instead he gets the guy killed in front of bunch of people and no one even questions the legality of this, let alone arrest him. End I'm just skimming the surface here. There's so much incredibly stupid moments in this setup, it boggles the freaking mind (the biggest gangster in town has no locked gate, lock doors,or even guards in his mansion at night???????).

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