Goldblum's first black alliance my arse! - The Great White Hype (1996) Discussion

[–] KraaTheGodEater 19 years ago

There's also a comment about there never being a white champ. Rocky Marciano, anyone?

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[–] boozec 19 years ago

"There's also a comment about there never being a white champ. Rocky Marciano, anyone?"

Yeah..perfect record...

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[–] Brunokid 19 years ago

Unless were strictly talking heavyweights here, there has been quite a few. Jim Braddock would be another heavyweight. Joe Louis won his belt off Braddock.

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[–] Gabe1972 7 years ago

I take Jim Braddock with a grain of salt. Yes, he was champ, but didn't fight for two years, and when he finally did, he lost. He only held the belt for as long as he did because he didn't fight anyone. But, he was still a champ.

Time wounds all heels.

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[–] BeyondTheRust 18 years ago

Ingemar *beep* Stenmark! :D

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[–] Donniebb 16 years ago

Try Ingemar Johansson (1959-1960). He was the last white heavyweight champ until Vitali Klitschko in 1999.

Stenmark was a champion skier.

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[–] oxblood 19 years ago

And Deep Cover with Larry Fishburne. And just a footnote, Jeff and Larry played thug/rapists in Death Wish and Death Wish II respectively. Also there was a Rocky Graziano who retired as champion in the 50s.

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[–] Ghostshadow187 18 years ago

I don't think they ever even said there was never a white world heavyweight champion in this movie. Remember someone makes reference to Dempsey/Tunney(sorry if my spellings off) being the most profitable fight in history at one point. The joke is that there hasn't been a real white contender in the heavyweight division for years("not counting Butterbean of course").

Republicans dont watch stand up, theyre busy watching cartoons, trying to see who's gay.

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[–] Schudogg61 18 years ago

The reference is to Holmes vs Cooney, the most profitable fight in history, dempsey/tunney was way back when it was like a quarter to go to the fight. As for their reference to white champions they are refering to the more recent times where the only real white contender since cooney has been Tommy Morrison.

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[–] oxblood 18 years ago

Yeah, Tommy Morrison was one of the fighters getting his face rearranged on one of the videos the sultan and his crew were reviewing for possible contenders.

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[–] peterz95 18 years ago

Tenspeed and Brownshoe. Ben Vereen

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[–] daku-2 17 years ago

Aren't all the current Heavyweight champs Eastern Europeans?

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[–] thenonamegamer 17 years ago

WHO CARES? BOXING IS DEAD! ITS ALL ABOUT UFC NOW

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[–] jasonsmoody51185 15 years ago

yeah its not. *beep* off!

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[–] crysjumar 16 years ago

by - peterz95 on Tue Oct 3 2006 14:36:51
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Tenspeed and Brownshoe. Ben Vereen
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nice dig into the "wayback" machine...most of these posters are probably too young to remember "Tenspeed and Brownshoe". Good show.

And I'll add another "Black Alliance" - Goldblum and Will Smith...Independence Day..........anyone heard of it?

-3 people can keep a secret, if 2 of them are dead

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[–] drzarnak 16 years ago

Every time I start to talk about boxin', some white man's gotta pull Rocky Marciano out their a/ss. That's their one. That's their one. Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano!

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[–] xcyberx 15 years ago

Joe Calzaghe, Ingemar Johansson, Gerrie Coetzee, Max Baer, James Braddock, James Jeffries, Max Schmeling, Bob Fitzsimmons, Gene Tunney, Tommy Morrison, Primo Carnera, Kelly Pavlik, George Chuvalo, Jack Dempsey, Ray Mancini, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, Oleg Maskaev, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, and Nicolay Valuev.

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[–] jasonsmoody51185 15 years ago

okay, aside from jeffries, fitzsimmons, tuney, and dempsey, not a single one of the other fighters you've mentioned could justifiably be considered an all-time great. not to mention you left even greater white fighers like carmen basilio, harry greb, hell, i'll take jerry quarry over half the guys you got mentioned up there. so good try, but no.

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[–] peterz95 16 years ago

Thanks. Being old has to have some value.

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[–] crysjumar 16 years ago

I prefer to think of it as being seasoned.

-3 people can keep a secret, if 2 of them are dead

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[–] cubfan1322 10 years ago

Kostya Tszyu was probably the most scary white guy of modern boxing - the way he murdered other good fighters. But he was a super-lightweight and not a heavyweight.

Either way, I love this conversation. We have this conversation about white, Mexican, Black fighters and so on..at my work all the time. This talk is in it's 21st year at my place of work and we are not even close to settling the debate.

I mention Kostya as the Mexicans and Blacks at my work seem to admit he was a badass in his prime more than any other white guy I bring up.

Also - you gotta give the Klitchkos an honorable mention as they have been killing everyone for like a decade now - boring or not.

Keep this stuff fun...it's the type of stuff that guys of different colors can argue about and relate.

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[–] crysjumar 10 years ago

I agree about both Klitchkos.....they had scary power. It would have been interesting to see early Tyson and Klitchko.

Do You Grok

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[–] crysjumar 10 years ago

Let's go back further than that.

Didn't anyone watch Tenspeed and Brown Shoe?

Do You Grok

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