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My major problem with 'Evita'


The music is gorgeous, the cinematography sublime, and I'm OK with Madonna in the lead role. But it occurred to me what's missing. Her ambition and the reaction to her death are captured well, but we do not see the people falling in love with Evita. "A New Argentina" hints at the roots of her popularity as she casts herself as a "worker," earning the allegiance of unions, but a montage and song showing her interaction with the poor and downtrodden would have connected some dots for me. There's something missing from the "arc," we don't really ever see things from the people's point of view. Clearly she had narcissistic traits, but something must have ignited the adoration. With Princess Di, for me it was the image of her cradling a child with AIDS at a time when there was still widespread ignorance about how HIV is transmitted. Eva apparently was not afraid to touch lepers and traveled to extremely remote parts of the country, but we never see this.

Or if we do, it's escaping my memory. I don't think this element was ever really brought into focus.

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Eva apparently was not afraid to touch lepers and traveled to extremely remote parts of the country, but we never see this.


In the "Rainbow High" number, Eva is shown visiting a shantytown and kissing a little girl and bending down to chat with a cripple elderly woman.

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The problem was Alan parker edited the film like a Music Video. He needed fewer costume changes and fewer camera angles on the songs that showed the people falling in love with Evita. Because of the frantic editing pace the film at times has no emotional impact on the viewer

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I thought exactly the same thing about the film. I kept waiting for the expensive music video to stop and the actual movie to start. I also didn't like the addition of "You Must Love Me" - it's an okay song on its own but it dilutes Eva's character when it's included in the story (the stage productions all have it now).

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In reality, they didn't fall in love with her until she was already first lady and set about redistributing wealth. The incongruous scene is the main balcony scene as eva wasn't that popular or powerful at that point.

I completely agree though. The film/ musical does massively underplay her interactions with everyday Argentinians and why they fell in love with her so much

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I agree with OP to a certain extent. The movie (and stage musical) barely touches on this and it was always a main complaint of mine about the musical. The film does a better job though, the number "And the Money Kept Rolling In (and Out)" for instance showcases Eva in action in her charitable works and it also showcases in a brief scene, her involvement with women.

In fairness, it may be a bit difficult to portray all of this on the stage in a 2 hour musical. Also, the musical concentrates more on the seedy, negatives aspect of Eva's character - real or imagined and this also should be taken into consideration.

However it may be hard for the viewer to fully understand why the masses, the poor people, were so enamoured, influenced and impacted by her (her funeral truly was a world event resulting in over a dozen deaths and several thousands to seek medical attention) if what she did is not shown. There really is not enough shown to explain the fanatical idolatry.

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The film needed a few dialog scenes or some sort of title cards about certain events. A good example of this is how they used cards in "Gone With Wind". To mark the passages of time a card would pop up and state certain events.

Had they of done that it would of resulted in a better film presentation

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Well, they do use newspaper/newsreel headlines to tell you what's going on (e.g. Peron's arrest, Peron wins inauguration, Eva embarks on her European tour, gold reserves dwindle, unemployment soars, railway worker strike), and Che also narrates some of the action (e.g. the military coup of 1943, Eva's Rainbow Tour, the shady business of Eva's foundation). The problem with the latter is that Antonio Banderas has a thick, Spanish accent, so it was difficult to make out what he was saying in English, thereby defeating his purpose as narrator.

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You know I forgot about that.

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"Mind you, it doesn't help that it had such a block of wood in the lead role, whose limit of acting comprehension was to stand around playing dress-ups. Parker could have done so much more with an actual actress as his lead"

Yes they really needed someone who is a professional dancer and singer, who has sold millions and millions of recordings and who looks like Eva Peron, as well as being believable in the role..gee I'm tryna think....

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The movie (and stage musical) barely touches on this and it was always a main complaint of mine about the musical.

Your post is very accurate to my response as well. I'm not a huge Lloyd Webber fan, and Evita would probably be my favourite of his works, at least musically, but it doesn't manage to tell the story it seems to be angling to tell. It fails to convey a clear grasp of the complexities, of how she rose to power despite the opposition of the military and the affluent classes, and how she became a popular icon despite being, in her own way, a despot and a sham. In the end, Eva seems to be not much more than a well-meaning glamourpuss. When they were making the film, I was initially hoping that it might be substantially rewritten to address that, but although they wisely dropped the industrial chemist angle from Che's character, the changes to the recitative scenes were a bit ugly.

Mind you, it doesn't help that it had such a block of wood in the lead role, whose limit of acting comprehension was to stand around playing dress-ups. Parker could have done so much more with an actual actress as his lead.

Despite the fact that I really liked the design and direction, and the musical arrangements (for the most part), it's one of the very few films I wouldn't mind seeing remade.



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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Your post is very accurate to my response as well. I'm not a huge Lloyd Webber fan, and Evita would probably be my favourite of his works, at least musically, but it doesn't manage to tell the story it seems to be angling to tell. It fails to convey a clear grasp of the complexities, of how she rose to power despite the opposition of the military and the affluent classes, and how she became a popular icon despite being, in her own way, a despot and a sham. In the end, Eva seems to be not much more than a well-meaning glamourpuss. When they were making the film, I was initially hoping that it might be substantially rewritten to address that, but although they wisely dropped the industrial chemist angle from Che's character, the changes to the recitative scenes were a bit ugly.

Mind you, it doesn't help that it had such a block of wood in the lead role, whose limit of acting comprehension was to stand around playing dress-ups. Parker could have done so much more with an actual actress as his lead.

Despite the fact that I really liked the design and direction, and the musical arrangements (for the most part), it's one of the very few films I wouldn't mind seeing remade.


The thing with Evita – the stage play, is that Webber and Rice (along with Harold Prince who in his mind Eva Peron was a villain "corrupted by power") were successful in telling THEIR version of her story. Rice called the real Eva “magnetic” but “unpleasant”, “dangerous” but “attractive”. He ordered Webber to make her a “wonderful b1tch”.

Webber also stated the real Eva was “extremely attractive” but that she was one of the most “unsympathetic" character he has ever written music for. He also stated Puccini would have “adored her”. In both there is an amazing mix of disgust and admiration. The stage play does the same thing, it tries hard to discredit her but ultimately, it loves her to pieces.

IMO, the stage show is one sided but so be it – This is the story Webber and Rice chose to tell – That of a glamourpuss (LOL) of loose morals, ambitious, ruthless and calculating but had some genuine desire to help the poor and mostly herself. They wanted to show her as a glamorous super-villain and weren’t really interested in making her all that sympathetic (although earlier versions were deemed too sympathetic and this was changed for the American premiere). For the most part, Eva is a great role for the female performer but it is a study of contrast – ruthless/compassionate, hard and calculating/glamorous and gentle, Villain/Heroine, Saint/Sinner etc. But having seen the stage show 7 times, Eva is portrayed as a super b1tch. Charming but a b1tch nonetheless.

This works great on the stage especially when you have an actress who is able to sink her teeth into such a meaty role.

However for film, telling a tale of a one dimensional heroine does not work - the story and character has to be fully fleshed out especially if it is a biopic and this is what EVITA is really – a biopic set to music. I do think that the film was successful in many aspects but having researched Eva for decades now I do think that the film does not really explain why an entire nation literally STOPPED when she died; why millions lost themselves in grief and when alive, why they gathered, by the hundreds, by the thousands, by the millions, to see her and hear her speak; why people literally carried her picture with them as if she was some sort of living saint or a family member (and still do) and why and how she changed a nation forever (for good or ill, take your pick)?

The reasons are far greater than simply being a great orator who wore pretty dresses and Van Cleef jewels and manipulated the mindless masses with her pretty yet empty speeches.

Would a former, uneducated B-film actress who posed for cheesecake photographs in the late 30’s and early 40’s and who through years of sexual exploits and luck, happened to become First Lady of the republic at 26, be called the MOST POWERFUL women on earth by the time she is 31 (by the international press), and who caused military men and corrupt politicians shake in their boots as a cold, dead corpse and inspire them to concoct a game of hide and seek with her mortal remains for fear that if found by the faithful, it would inspire a revolution, have this kind of impact for simply being a good manipulator who got lucky?

For many, the woman and the circumstances displayed in the stage play and film is enough to explain most of this away but for others, like the OP, questions will linger, especially if the scope of her influence within Latin America is scrutinized because this woman is very much alive down in Argentina, even more so than her husband – a 3 time President of Argentina.

Geesh… I’m ranting. Haha.

I do agree with your assessment of Madonna. Although I admit this is her finest moment in film, I am left wondering what the film would have been like had they cast someone with the acting chops of a Meryl Streep and vocal prowess of a Patti Lupone. A role like EVITA needed to be carefully cast and I was one of the many who was disappointed when Madonna’s casting was announced (although she did resemble the real Eva Peron quite a bit) and I also agree with you that this film should be remade. It’s been 20 years now….. I think enough time has passed that this can be considered a good candidate and if they do, hopefully they get someone who not only looks like the real thing, but can do justice to such a complex role and I am totally on board for casting a talented unknown.

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I don't feel as though showing more adoration was needed. The movie starts out with her death, and those in a movie theater are WEEPING once they hear the news. Her funeral attracted hundreds of thousands, if not millions. We KNOW she was adored.

I think the UNTOLD story was her rise and the contempt government/military officials and the upper class felt for her. This was a better story, IMO.

"A New Argentina", "Rainbow High" and "The Money Kept Rolling In" show the people falling in love with her, and her charitable work (even if the foundation was corrupt). Between these songs and the funeral scenes, why do you need more in terms of the people falling in love with her?



Ay me, sad hours seem long

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But that¿s what Rainbow High and the Money Kept Rolling Are, they show exactly that.

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