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This whole movie is flawed


The basic premise of it being about senator mccarthy is a load of *beep* he was right all along this is just another liberal writer with to much time on his hands

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he had perfect legal reason too, they were communists in our government thats reason enough, to think if somehow they took over would be horrible he knew he couldnt let that happen

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you're an idiot. what does this have to do with the movie anyway? take your ignorant political views somewhere else where people care.

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this has to do with the movie cuz some of it was on the mccarthy triles and they arent ignorant they are right almost all the people you say wrongfully were put in jail have been proven to be communists because when the soviet union fell they found all kinds of files proving so :)

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but there is proof now that they were communists, and trying to spread those ideas in a democracy of course they are gonna be jailed and damn well they should be, and dont change the subject to the cival war to try and make ur answer more justified the point is mccarthy was right and he just be respected because of it not ridiculed by liberal writers

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Of course he would change wut he was calling them, its just like today terrorists arent called terrorists they are called "freedom fighters" and other things of that nature, and they have been proven guilty, they werent back then because they had no evidence now they do, those people accused were in our government and there was nothing stopping them from trying to take over the communism was in other countries at the time, im not using liberal as a "dirty" word i'm just saying its them that always try to make him look bad beacuase he was a republican and since democrats of full of *beep* of course they are gonna try and make him look like a evil man, and you are bringing up articles and stuff that looked like it was published back when mccarthy was still around and the people had not been proven communits yet.

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Don't you know that Republicans are just as embarrassed about McCarthy as Democratics are? He was probably the most un-American person of the 20th Century.

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there are tons are articles saying mccarthy was right....you refuse to look at them

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I'm sure the articles that prove him right are completely accurate. </sarcasm>

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Save yourselves! Do not feed the energy creature!

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I refuse to read any more of your posts. you are an idiot. McCarthy did it all for power and money, as numerous sources prove. I will not waste my time on you, republican idiot.

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Joseph McCarthy was himself, exactly how he billed communists to be. He instilled a sense of pure fear in a country, and tried to scare the American people into changing their government. Does this sound familiar in any way? If so, you can read and probably use correct punctuation (unlike some participants of this message board). Sen. McCarthy created his own totalitarian regime, it was called the "House Committee on Un-American Activities". He made himself the judge, jury, and executioner for too many people, who's lives were ruined by McCarthy's lies. There is no real proof that anyone was either a communist or wrongly accused, but anyone who isn't a complete idiot obviously knows that the "Red Scare" was pure paranoia, and a complete lie. In closing: Sen. Joseph McCarthy, bad; Salem Witch Trials are exactly the same as "The House Committee on Un-American Activites" and the NSA's "Warrantless Wiretapping Program"; and anyone who still believes the U.S.S.R. exists and is coming to get us, suffers from paranoia, and needs help.

Thank you for your time.

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Anyoen hear heared of the George Clooney film "Good night and Good luck"? Those boards have a few Pro-Mcarthys as well.

Odd, I don't think there's a single person who still believes the Salme Witch trials were justified yet there are people who think the Red Scare, which was basicly a renactment of the Witch Trials, was justified? It is sad, really sad.

"Hate me, detest me, and survive in an unsightly way"-Itachi

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I guess there's one for every era: Salem Witch Trials, Red Scare, Patriot Act... it's freakin' scary, what mankind is capable in the face of the 'unknown'.

V for Vhaidra.

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people don't get worked up. look at the name of the original poster...Francesux1990? hmmm so their probably 16 and they think that FRANCE SUX 4 SURE YEEAH! U R STOOPID.

Vern, Chris, Teddy: I don't shut up, I grow up, and when I look at you, I throw up.

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McCarthy was a senator - he wasn't a member of the HCUAC!

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This is lovely, and I wish I could've written it myself. That being said, we should realize that we're arguing with someone who has "francesux" as their name.

hasn't anyone ever told you that smoking was bad for you?

no..no one..THANK YOU.

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my god.....people like this actually exist? scary $hit. and the SPELLING !!!!!

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wow some of you are idiots, if your interested in the trails watch Good Night and Good Luck, Miller wrote this(the crucible) as far as I am aware to show how the similarities of the trails are the Salem witch hunt

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Wow, i don't believe i've met anyone as brainwashed as you are. Joe McCarthy WAS NOT A COMMUNIST FIGHTER. He wanted to gain power in the government, and did so by causing a panic. It was all a bunch of pointed finger. Nothing more. Do you really think Joe McCarthy was after communists, when they would let 'communists' go for revealing names of 'other communists'??

you need to relearn your history, because soon it will repeat itself and YOU'll be on that communist list.

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I think the idea of fear is what the book/movie and the McCarthy era have in common. People were afraid to say or do things that weren't liked by those pointing the finger because all that was needed to condemn a person was an accusation. If the Senator said someone was a communist, that person was treated sub-par even IF there was no proof. If Abigail merely said someone was a witch, that person was condemned and in that era there was really no way to say whether or not you were a witch because of the superstition involved.

So whether or not communist sympathizers were a threat to the US, I believe the premise of the book/movie is the condemning, pointing finger.

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Lucielle Ball was blacklisted... so, it wasn't just people who had political power McCarthy was going after. "The only thing red about her is her hair... and, even that isn't real!"

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On what planet do you currently reside? McCarthy?...right?...you're a dumbass who needs to crack a history text.

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I’ll bet your voting for the “pitbull with lipstick,” she’s right up your alley!

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Joe McCarthy was one of the greatest Americans there ever was, along with Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose, they did almost as much as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln in forming the American zeitgest. I can only wonder what the hell Americns were thinking to allow George Bush in the door, God's sakes fellows learn your history.
This film always makes me angry, damn those people,live in hell for your sins.False witness indeed.

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Why do people keep telling others to watch a Hollywood movie to catch up on facts? How about you suggest a book. Maybe a book found in the nonfiction section? Maybe even one that has citations?

It really bugs me when people get their information from fiction-- even fiction that is "BASED on true events." Read something that doesn't involve artistic license for your facts. Watch Hollywood for your entertainment.

"My name is Alice... and I remember everything."

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The OP is called France Sux.

There alone is enough reason to know that this guy is a loon and a nutjob.

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plus in another thread he boasts that he gave To Kill a Mockingbird one star because it was boring.

i think France Sux fails to understand moral stands in film. poor kid.

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It is a great drama more geared for the stage. It wasn't meant to be an overbloated Hollywood movie. Winona ruined it.

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Bless your heart. Would that you had enough time on your hands to press "PAUSE" on Fox News and actually learn about history.

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