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This movie was crap and about as factual as mammaries on a boar hog


I am a Gulf War vet and I looked forward to this movie. It turned out to be absolute bunk. I know, I know, it was a movie, but they got nothing right! The only woman killed in a helicopter in the Gulf War was a pilot who crashed her helicopter into some guy wires and killed her whole crew. How Hollywood can get a medal of honor winner out of that is beyond me.

"one female Army helicopter pilot was killed in the Persian Gulf War, in the crash of a noncombatant Chinook cargo helicopter in a non-combat-related accident outside the combat zone after the ceasefire"

http://www.voicenet.com/~lpadilla/fictional.html

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Ummm..the movie wasn't based on that incident. Its a hollywood movie not a documentary.

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It's not about just the war, it's about truth and how different people remember things differently.

"I will take your mother out to a nice seafood dinner and NEVER call her again!"

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I enjoyed this movie. Macho culture in the armed forces that would allow an inferior soldier to kill a superior officer because of gender issues is discussed. Public relations importance in time of crisis over-riding the truth is discussed. How awards are distributed in the American military system is discussed.

Furthermore, the acting and script seemed to flow well with these points. The only complaints I would have on this movie are:
a) not enough visual effects to make the battle scenes more realistic or more interesting (or both), and
b) being so crazy pro-American. The world knows how well American soldiers fight and how they are dependent on technology, and we have Iraqi soldiers portrayed as either i) sick sadists on the hills laughing at the protagonists, ii) stupid idiots to attack on a single wave head-on charge, iii) abnormally superior shooting skills on Americans, iv) to imply infilitration of enemy lines as somehow cowardly when it is an acceptable practice on a technologically superior adversary.

It's too bad the clarinath may seem to believe that anything the comes out of Hollywood purports to be the truth. This movie is not about an Army helicopter pilot dying in the Iraq-Kuwait War (1990), nor about the American Invasion of Iraq (2003). It is about the truth, and the survivors who tell the stories. It is about honour and pragmatism. It is about existing day by day after traumatic events. It is not a Rambo movie.

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While I agree with your points and I like this movie, the movie is not very accurate. The fact that they refer to Blackhawks often and you only see Hueys made me mad. Also the Army would not have used cobra gunships, it would have used Apaches. Also the idea of A-10s dropping napalm in the desert is absurd.
I also don't see how this movie is crazy pro American. If anything it is anti the US Army.

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"I also don't see how this movie is crazy pro American..."

Umm... "Never, ever underestimate your enemy. But remember we're a hell of a lot smarter than they are, we've got better weapons, and we're better trained".

I have to admit, that one made both my wife and me chuckle. :-)

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It was much more entertaining to watch though, than the mammaries on a boar hog *grin*. No I didnt miss the point - just being fascetious.

We have to give room for someone who's been part of that scene to be demanding - even pedantic over factual representation. For your part, Clarinath, I think you should expect to be disappointed on anything from Hollywood depicting the gulf war. They weren't there. You were. And there's always licence taken over factual and technical aspects in order to facilitate the telling of a story in an hour or two.

Perhaps the tag-line, "The first casualty in wartime is the truth" was the main thrust of the film. However, one aspect of that which wasn't represented was the fact that the poor blighters out on the front who are laying their lives on the line are just as much 'mushrooms' as the general populace, and probably the greatest victims of 'truth-loss'.

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@the op

you completely missed the point of this movie, congratulations. Also, i bet my right pinky that you're not a vietnam war vet.

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i think you missed that this movie is insulting to anyone that was in the war!?
and it didn't give credit where it's due!! wasn't to any woman and it does suck

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You're right, I am not a Vietnam war vet. I never said I was.

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First things first - if you're a war vet, thanks for defending your country. It's an honour.

However, this movie was not based on a true story, so the basis of your complaint is horrible.

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