He's an *beep* and not a very good artist.

EVERY OPINION ABOUT ANY ART EVER IS IRRELEVANT.

Read that again.

Art is objective, it's a different experience for everyone.

End of thread, end of discussion, there is no debate.



http://us.imdb.com/name/nm2339870/

Amen and amen!

If I wanted to be rich with a minimal amount of effort, I would become a modern artist. Draw a blue square over a yellow one and sell it for 5 million dollars, and people will be climbing over each other to get their hands on it. It's insane! While deconstruction can and is a valuable part of the creative process and can produce wonderful results, the overemphasis on this sort of thing is shocking. I took a contemporary art class and the reasons some people will make for painting half a canvas orange and the other half lavender are absolutely comical.

It's frustrating how artists nowadays can look on traditional methods and techniques with disdain. If you're going to break the rules, you have to know what the rules are, and when it's fine to break them.

I have the same problem with art now, specifically painting and to a smaller degree, sculpting. These days you have to be "educated" in a myriad of different (but really the same) art techniques and so on. Everyone who calls these painters hacks is instantly uneducated in the arts, and doesn't under stand color or whatever the issue at hand is... And this trend seems specific to this art form. The majority of successful painters belong to this category, where you have to have certain knowledge and intuition to understand their works. This doesn't exist in other forms of art. You don't see successful writers just throw random words on the page, and then explain it as "emotions". In film, art house movies are mostly considered trash by the great directors. Music, however *beep* it is today, doesn't have successful artists just record random noises. Ok, there are artists in all of these fields that are successful at making stuff like that, but they are a very small minority. This brings me to my second point. If you are intelligent and can appreciate beauty, than art should be appealing to you from the get go. No need to consult art literature, consult with "experts" and so on. For example, when I enter the Sistine chapel and look up, I am instantly transfixed in a flurry of emotion...it is just so beautiful. I don't kneed to understand some intricate property of art, it just comes to me. Again, I'm not expecting everyone to have the same feelings as me (even though I can't imagine anyone not being completely blown away by Michelangelo), but modern art has (d)evolved into something most people don't recognize as beautiful.
And when people say "I could draw this". Yes, I really think you or anyone of us could. Some people post challenges "Oh if you can, why don't you just do it and see how well you do". That's just a logical fallacy. The fact that most people wouldn't make it by producing such art has nothing to do with actual talent. As someone else said, it's mostly who you know, and being in the right place at the right time. My writing might seem disjointed right now, as i'm very tired but I just had to write this out.

I've tried my hand and painting. I do a damn fine job of putting my emotions into it, and I feel very satisfied with the final product. Then I junk it, because, like teenage poetry, it's nothing I want the world to see.

I can look at Basquiat's work, look at Pollock's, and look at my own, and I can see where my work is weighed and found wanting. I'm not a good painter. The sign-language gorilla that dabbles in fingerpaint? She's a good painter. Enjoyment of a painting comes from a primal place just a little north of the spleen; there's seldom much thought behind the attraction, just in the explanation.

Not everybody likes the same thing, and that is part of what makes the arts such a great media.





(So, from one starving artist to another, can I see some of your works?)



http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Thief-Novel-Herb-Durgin/dp/1424114829

Here Here, jennie-ann!! Exactly Put!

Stop arguing, debating, weighing and judging. If you get it, you do, if you don't, you don't- either way, it's OK! It's about you're own perspective. If you need to weigh or even consider the opinions of others on particular artists/styles, you yourself are not even experiencing art. Try this... go to the MOMA, stand in front of an actual Basquiat canvas, silence the "voices" in your head, and see what you see and feel what you feel. If you dig it great, if not, that's fine, but you can't deny the perspective and feeling someone else gained from their experience of the piece. If you don't see any of the pieces in real life, you have not experienced them and hence should not really even be discussing them.

The funny thing is I read one of the more definitive Biographies on Basquiat and after reading it, I cam to the conclusion that the Art world needed a new art world star, a savage new artist to get excited about and Basquiat fit the bill. Do I believe he was talented, he was as talented or much less so then the graffiti artists like Fab 5 freddy that he initially hanged out with. He was very good with color and composition, exceptionally good for someone who didn't have academic training, but from an artistic standpoint, he only had 2 years of really good stuff, and even his bad stuff could be sold for an inordinate amount of money. This was occurring during the 80's , where art was thought as an asset that appreciated and could be sold to the highest bidder as opposed to a true artistic endeavor.

I believe Basquiat knew this and towards the end, was "phoning in" his work retreading old themes he had done before which lacked the emotional depth of his previous work. Jackson Pollock was a very good academically trained painter, so to say he was not talented because of his later works is absurd.

In terms of his private life, its safe to say he was a major douche, but in the art world, who isn't?

how the hell can people think making art is an easy way to make money? do they have any idea how hard it is to become a successful artist?