Why no sex scene between the step son and step mum?
We get teased with some seriously hot scenes and then nothing!
Cutler didn't even get a full sex scene - in which he would probably have been stunning. This guy is solid perfection!
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I was expecting it too, especially when the stepmother was more interested in his picture than her husband during the act. And yes, Cutler was totally cut.
shareThere was a lot of build up for it, I guess the production crew felt that kind of scene might offend some people. A sex scene between Claire, and her stepson Todd probably would have relieved some tension between the two. If this movie was made now a days, and was a direct to DVD kind of film odds are there would have been a sex scene between the two characters. Most likely something raunchy along the lines of the sex scene in the Friday the 13th remake.
shareYes, it seemed like they danced around that issue but didn't quite dive into those waters. It's not like I wanted to see it the stepson and stepmother have sex, but it seemed like it was leading up to it.
A DVD release today would probably "explore" that further – at least in the deleted scenes if not the original film.
And the "Friday the 13th" remake/reimagining/whatever is horrible in so many ways, in my opinion.
If you ask you shall receive. Funny enough I was talking to a buddy of mine today who still works out in the Vancouver film industry who happens to be a big fan of the Amityville series of films, so he's asked around about stuff over the years. So I asked him if he knew any info on the subject. First off he reminded me that he hates this movie with a passion. However he did answer a couple of things for me.
In the original draft there was sex scene between Claire and Todd. It was to happen after the fantasy scene in the bathroom. In the movie it's her husband who comes up the stairs, they start to make out and she then freaks out because she can't stop thinking of Todd. Originally it was Todd who ran up the stairs after the bathroom fantasy scene to apologize for flipping out a few minutes earlier outside. He would see his Step-Mother Clare half naked, he would start to get special feelings that were in sink with her special feelings and that would lead them to the bedroom where they would do the steamy deed.
After that Claire, and Todd would become evil, and distant from the rest. Also Jimmy was originally Todd, and Jessica's brother, not Claire's son. She was originally just the Step-Mother with no children. It also originally had a darker ending with just Jimmy, and Jessica making it out alive with everyone else dying.
Woah! Thanks for those details. I'm not surprised there was much more to Claire and Todd's relationship in the original draft, because it's partially explored here, but the film doesn't have the courage to see it through. It's not like I want to see incest portrayed in a horror film, but why set it up if you're just going to drop it? It would certainly have made for better developed characters.
So does your friend think this would have been a better film had they followed through on Todd and Claire's relationship? I suspect it would have. I am a fan of the Amityville series, though not a big fan because, frankly, many of the films aren't very good and the myriad sequels are a huge stretch from the original. A dollhouse? A mirror? A lamp? Check!
Thanks again for backstory.
I don't know if it would have made it a better film if they fully followed through with Todd, and Claire's affair like they did in the original draft. However it definitely would have made for a darker, and more twisted film that would have probably been more satisfying.
shareI guess the whole "evil dollhouse" thing didn't really work for me, so I was looking at other elements to improve the film. Of course, the evil dollhouse was the premise of the film, so maybe anything else would have just been a distraction.
shareYeah the "evil dollhouse" was the main premise for the film in a rotating evil possessed object theme that the Amityville sequels seemed to have. I don't think the affair between Step-Mother, and Step-Son was toned down because they felt it was a distraction.
The most likely reason would be the producers got cold feet over the taboo subject matter, and didn't want to any backlash, so they instead just toned it down. However three years later in the film "End of Days" a man possessed by the devil has an incestuous threesome with a mother, and daughter. Which is more offensive then sex between a Step-Mother and Step-Son. Also it was main stream film too where as Amityville Dollhouse was a low budget direct to video B-Movie. It just goes to show you, don't hold your punches. So either go big, or just go home.
I guess by having the character in "End of Days," they could sell it as a morality tale instead of exploitation. Plus it starred Schwarzenegger, so I'm sure "good" won out in the end.
shareThis film could have been more entertaining and less of a waste if they stuck to the original script and had the guts to do things even if they were Taboo. Also I would have preferred the darker scarier ending. Oh well, hopefully the next Amityville film actually pushes boundaries, and has an entertaining storyline. No more remakes, or the current idea for a sequel that's been floating around for a couple of years about it being done documentary style in a film about people making a documentary on the Amityville house and then experiencing it's evil for themselves. It just seems too much like Blair Witch.
shareWait ... they're still talking about making more "Amityville" films? I'd actually prefer at this point to see "The Amityville Fraud," a documentary about the original hoax. Or maybe it's time to really break new ground and make an Amityville comedy.
This gets very confusing when you have the remake with Ryan Reynolds (which I actually thought wasn't that bad, though completely unnecessary), then further sequels, presumably to the 1979 film instead of the 2005 remake. Then you have films like Rob Zombie's "Halloweens" (gawd I hate those) and the recent "Friday the 13th" reboot/reimagining/whatever (it seemed to be more a sequel than a remake), which seem to exist in an alternate universe despite their titles.
Yeah they just keep bleeding the franchise dry until there is nothing left. Then they still try some more because they don't understand the concept of "not" beating a dead horse. Oh well we'll probably get another crappy sequel of sorts, then the franchise will go into limbo again for another 5 to 10 years after that, and then they'll whip out another reboot/remake. Ah the endless cycle that is a horror movie franchise.
shareI really expected films like "The Blair Witch Project" and "The Sixth Sense" to shake up the horror genre, which they did to a point rather briefly, but it seems like we're still at square one. I guess films like "Cloverfield" and "District 9" are the new direction in horror, but I can't say I was overly impressed with those.
shareThis film could have been more entertaining and less of a waste if they stuck to the original script and had the guts to do things even if they were Taboo.
I agree. They should have had a real scene between Claire and Todd. Even if it was a fantasy sequence, or if one of them was temporarily possessed. I liked the tease and was disappointed they didn't follow through at all. share
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Something else the movie could have done to make it better, was have a scene with the burnt Dana coming back and having sex with Todd, but him not realizing it at first. They tease this a bit in the scene where he sees her sitting on the bed from behind before touching her head and she turns around to reaveal the burns. They should have had him asleep and then be awakened by her seemingly getting into the bed with him, her nude and on top of him. They start to have sex, and he can see her body but her head is in shadow. He can start to sense something wrong and then have her lean down and show her burnt face. It's good when films mix sex and horror.
shareGross, he's just a kid. Vice Principal Gills FTW!
shareThe Amityville demons seem to have a hardcore incest fetish. In Part 2 we have Sonny and Trish who are brother and sister, in It's About Time the sister tried to come onto her brother, and now the step mom in this movie wanted to get with her step son.
I've been waiting for you, Ben.