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Just started season 4


The show is already bad, and Michael is still there and Charlie isnt. Look past your hate for Charlie and love for Michael, and realize Charlie didnt kill the show and Michael didnt make it great.

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Season 4 was never on par with the other three seasons anyway.The first reason been Fox's awful condition.I love the guy but sometimes it was painful to watch him in some of the episodes.His facial expression,his voice and his timing were faltering.The second reason Stacey left.She was great.And the third reason Heather Locklear came into it to help Fox with the workload and publicity for the show.Not only isn't she funny but alot of the attention was taken away from the rest of the cast to focus on her relationship with Mike.

Locklear crippled the show and Sheen put it out of it's misery and killed it stone dead.

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Sorry but I just recently watched the season 5 premiere.. And what I think is that Charlie was introduced as a very blunt character and comes off to me as just plain unlikeable. Fox did some very distasteful things but he was a likeable character so I tended to overlook it as I think most did. Maybe this is just me though.

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It may have been bad, but it certainly got worst with Charlie replacing Mike.
In season 4, you have less of Michael and a new character who's supposed to be terribly smart, tough attractive and even likeable. And ends up being none of those things.
Plus, Stacy (who, was a great character) is nowhere to be seen.
Mike is very ill.
Mike and Nikki's romance is abruptly left out, while it had been building up for the whole third season.
Carter and Stuart's comic duo becomes a bit thinned out.
The whole Caitlin-Mike competition gets too more of coverage. The excellent supporting players are pretty much overshadowed.

In the next seasons, same problems but without Mike. And without Nikki, James and Janelle. And without New York. How could it survive ?

" You ain't running this place, Bert, WILLIAMS is!" Sgt Harris

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They needed to bring in somebody else--anybody else besides Locklear. Or if they had bumped Carter up to Deputy Mayor it might have worked.

Sheen himself was the worst possible actor they could have picked. Fox wasn't flawless in real life. But Sheen had actual rep as 'sleaze' which did not fit who he was coming in after. VERY bad timing and decision by all of the show's production staff. Another actor might have kept show running if Fox really had not been able to continue.

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This show really hit a wall. Well, a huge speed bump anyhow. The differences in season four are immediate and jarring. First off, Fox is in far worse shape. He's hard to look at. Then they changed the theme music, replacing the iconic blues traveler sounding stuff with some generic guitar riff (unless this was a DVD change?). The cast shake up isn't great. The writing is no longer as edgy or rapid fire. It no longer feels like a ensemble cast. It's still watchable. Even hilarious from time to time. But not the same beast at all.

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I agree. Very sad. I must have been 10 when Spin City ended but I watched reruns back in the early '00's. One episode I caught on T.V randomly one day, presumably the last season Fox was in. In this scene he brought a girl over to his apartment and there was a word exchange like ''I was hoping you didn't live with your parents'' (or something like that) and Fox said something back and then there was the HUGE tremor in his hand while holding a cup. It was the most awkward thing I've seen on television, I'm surprised they didn't edit it out. The audience kind of reacted to it it too. Damn.

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