Time to vote


Here are the chosen shows for consideration in alphabetical order.

Rank your top three so we can have 1st, 2nd and 3rd places. The winner will be announced on Friday 26th evening.

Here are the suggested shows:

- Awake - (2012) 13 episodes
- Brimstone - (1999) 13 episodes
- Caprica - (2010) 18 episodes
- Eleventh Hour - (2006) 4 episodes
- Outcasts - (2010) 8 episodes
- The Middleman - (2008) 12 episodes
- The Prisoner - (1967) 17 episodes
- Total Recall 2070 - (1999) 22 episodes

(There it is, I just corrected the options. Oh, I was so in the mood for The Outcasts, the 1968 western... Oh, well, maybe next time.)

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I think we should hold the vote until we get those two shows clarified.

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It's all up to wlcebtg to clarify that, since it's his shows. If he doesn't manifest himself soon, we won't be able to consider them unfortunately.

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Well, The Outcasts (1968) is a western, so I'm sure he must have meant Outcasts (2010), which is SF.

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Yeah, DT is right, no way WL would have chosen a western...he hates those mostly.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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1. The Middleman
2. Brimstone
3. Caprica


http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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Sorry about that it is Outcasts 2010
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1697793/?ref_=sr_1
Eleventh Hour 2006
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462097/?ref_=sr_4

Eleventh Hour is good Outcast not so sure.

My three votes are:

1 Awake
2 Caprica
3 Brimstone


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Thanks, wlcebtg. Now everything is right!

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Caprica would have been my third nominee. Not so sure about some of the others, but I'll take a shot:

1 - Awake
2 - Caprica
3 - Total Recall 2070

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So many good shows to choose from...

1- Brimstone
2- The Middleman
3- Total Recall 2070

OK, just musing on the situation. Brimstone was one of the finalists last time, so I decided to stick to it. I chose The Middleman second because I feel 40% lighthearted. The suggestion is growing on me, so keep it in our minds, Stone in case it's not chosen this time. Caprica is also growing on me. It's still recent, so I'm not sure I'd want to see it again so soon, but it's another welcome suggestion. Awake was a curious show with some really WTF moments, but again, way too recent. Like a good wine, it needs to be matured in TV history. I was going to give The Prisoner a shot, but since not even its proponent, dtmuller, voted for it, then neither did I. Eleventh Hour and Outcasts seem excellent suggestions really, so I wouldn't mind considering them again on a further occasion. I just think you guys are overlooking Total Recall 2070, so I have to rethink if I should present it again.

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I was going to give The Prisoner a shot, but since not even its proponent, dtmuller, voted for it, then neither did I.
Well, I probably shouldn't do this, but by the time I voted, it was obvious The Prisoner didn't have a chance, so I figured "Why bother?" But it'll be back. Others have nominated it a number of times, and it's sort of the Harold Stassen of science fiction.

But now I believe we have a tie.

(I just noticed something. If you look at the way we posted our votes, each of us used a different format. Looks like we can't agree on anything. Except maybe the Moon Mouse.)

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I may just watch the prisoner anyway after I'm done with both seasons of the invaders.

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Yeah, I would do that too, but I have so many series in my queue on Netflix that I just can't add any more. But hang in! We may get to that eventually!

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by wlcebtg » 2 hours ago (Tue Jul 23 2013 14:06:21)
IMDb member since April 2007

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I may just watch the prisoner anyway after I'm done with both seasons of the invaders.

I have several shows in store, but I've been trying to save them to watch with you guys. Day Break was one of them. It pays to be patient.

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by dtmuller » 11 hours ago (Tue Jul 23 2013 05:48:15)
IMDb member since July 2003

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But now I believe we have a tie.

Why did you say that? How did you get to that result?

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dtmuller: But now I believe we have a tie.


madp: Why did you say that? How did you get to that result?

Maybe that ganglion scrambling my brain.

I thought--and I won't be offended if you say I'm hallucinating--that the votes were weighted (1st = 3 points, 2nd = 2 points, 3rd = 1 point). By that method, Awake and Brimstone have 6, Caprica and Middleman have 5 and Total Recall 2070 has 2.

But if you're just counting votes, with all equal, we have a different tie: Brimstone and Caprica with 3 and each of the others with 2.

Or maybe you're doing something else. How does it work?

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hmmmm you may be right, I forgot about that. I think maybe they were weighted in some way or another.....I can't remember.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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Come on Middleman man.....you must sway someone's vote or we will be Awaking away. Join me MadP let's see if it's as charming as I remember or just yucky.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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by charmedwon666 » 4 hours ago (Tue Jul 23 2013 18:25:00)
IMDb member since February 2008

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Come on Middleman man.....you must sway someone's vote or we will be Awaking away. Join me MadP let's see if it's as charming as I remember or just yucky.

Well, we all have until Thursday to think about the consequences of our actions, right? Who knows what might happen until then...

I was thinking it could be a bold move (I love subverting the system). But since there are so few of us, and we trust each other's tastes, sometimes instead of voting like we do, we could grant a round to each member to pick his "pet" show. So, when it was your turn, you'd pick The Middleman and we'd all watch it, then in mine I'd pick Total Recall 2070 (for instance), etc. And wlcetbg would have a chance with one of his British shows.

Just a subversive idea, you know...

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I was thinking it could be a bold move (I love subverting the system). But since there are so few of us, and we trust each other's tastes, sometimes instead of voting like we do, we could grant a round to each member to pick his "pet" show. So, when it was your turn, you'd pick The Middleman and we'd all watch it, then in mine I'd pick Total Recall 2070 (for instance), etc. And wlcetbg would have a chance with one of his British shows.


This has actually been discussed before but at the time everyone was getting to see a show they really liked most of the time but now there is very few us left and it may not go that way anymore. If the majority has a taste for drama lets say with no interest towards humor then the humor people might have to wait a long time to see a show.
I myself like westerns but not many have that same taste. I don't even bring any up because I am a minority in this area.
The other thing I try to stay conscious of is I hate to make people watch something they hate and always try and keep that in mind when picking shows.


I've got no problem with the idea but the rub comes when and if we pick up people, hasn't been a problem for sometime now, but it does happen. You really have to commit to hang on for years as each of us has done. Not as easy as it sounds.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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And, of course, if we'd had that rule a year or so ago, I would have forced all of us to endure Darkroom, and would have become the only member of this group to be banished forever.

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Oh, well, that's just an idea. But I'm be for it in case everybody decides to try it. To me it would be easier to just give the responsibility of choosing a show to somebody else, rather than trying to pick a show i think others would like. Now for some reason, I'm starting to sound like my nephew, who will enthusiastically invite everyone to watch HIS favorite movies. I've been invited to watch Harry Potter countless times already.

Of, course, someone could always pull a Darkroom, but I'm being optimistic and trusting nobody would choose a reality show or a western. Ironically, when I was a kid I used to watch Big Valley, Bonanza, Lancer, Chaparral, The Man from Virginia, The Monroes, Daniel Boone (OK, not a western, I know that)... But putting aside the "Monkey" hiccup (how could that have happened?), all choices offered seem to have been pretty decent, and I'd go for any of them.

Just as a curiosity, here's a sample of what I used to watch. It's interesting how they used the same voices to dub Star Trek, and other unrelated shows of that time. My father still watches Bonanza on TCM, the channel for the people who can always say "I see dead people."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI5_pVNYR8c

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Well over the course of time there have been 3 shows that I would have bailed on.
NightGallery
God Bob and the Devil
Dark Skies

If that rule was in place over the course of time I would have selected 2 shows and they would have been

Dead Like Me (two year show but we have done those)
The Middleman

It would be crap shoot but at least everyone's show would win from time to time.
But once a show would be chosen...no EXTRA griping would be in order

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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Well, I would be willing to go through these two shows of yours, even though I probably wouldn't have chosen them myself, and even though I'd say DLM is a bit long because it doesn't have two short seasons like Pushing Daisies.

Anyway... Just considering the possibilities. I'd say we could finish the present voting process since we started it, and normally go with the chosen one. Then in the next round we could start the new system, one round for each of the four of us, the usual suspects. And then after the four rounds, decide how we went. We could also, have another voting round every five ones. And in case we pick someone new along the way, then the next round would be voted because of the new guy. Or something like that.

I'm open for these new possibilities. You guys now say what you think.

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I was thinking about the rotation system a while back, but I'm not in favor of it. (I'll still go with what the group thinks, however.) The voting system has some advantages:

1 - It ensures that there is at least some consensus within the group that we want to watch a show, as opposed to one guy picking out something the rest can't stand.

2 - I've skipped several shows because I simply couldn't get them. Under the rotation system, that could become, "Everybody has to watch my show, but I'll bail on yours." That wouldn't really be the intent, but it would look bad. As the proverb goes: Never stoop to tie your shoelaces in your neighbor's melon patch.

3 - It makes it difficult to deal with new blood. That hasn't been much of an issue lately, but I'm not sure that simply voting on the next show is sufficient. What do you do with someone like dtmuller, who keeps jumping in and out?

4 - And then there's the rules. We're pretty laid back about that--one season shows? Well not really, we might just do the first season. Or maybe we'll do both, if they're short. Science fiction? I already hear people talking about westerns, etc. We can be loose about it because if a suggestion is too far out, nobody votes for it. Under rotation, I'm afraid there will be a lot of contention about what fits the rules. I don't really want to go there.

My two cents.

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Well, I think if we're going to change anything, the decision should be unanimous.

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I agree with the unanimous part. I have always tried to keep in mind how long it's been since someone hasn't gotten to see a show they want and will vote that way sometimes. I think if everyone tries to do this most of the usual suspects will have a rotation. I have no problem with the way we do things now and I have no problem discussing other ways.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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OK, just to clarify... The voting so far.

SHOW................1ST.........2ND...........3RD......TOTAL........POINTS
Brimstone..............1...........1..............1...........3..................6
Awake..................2...........0..............0...........2..................6
The Middleman.......1...........1..............0...........2..................5
Caprica.................0...........2..............1...........3..................5
Total Recall 2070....0...........0..............2...........2..................2

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I think you'd better check your math on Brimstone. The four of us casting five votes...I thought you lived in Brazil, not Chicago.

Oh, and Middleman has a first- and second-place vote, but not a third.

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You're right. I'll check that.

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