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This Friday on 'Dark Skies' ep 16: 'Burn, Baby, Burn'


AIRED: 3/1/97

Kim feels strangely compelled to have her baby in California. (And apparently she also feels compelled to do other stupid things that ultimately put her in danger.) Meanwhile, guess what breaks out in Watts... And also in the meantime, Albano's Gray buddy wakes up, and communication with it leads to some disquieting news. Oh, and Steele is back!

Eric Close ... John Loengard
Megan Ward ... Kimberly Sayers
J.T. Walsh ... Capt. Frank Bach
Jeri Ryan ... Juliet Stewart
Tim Kelleher ... Jim Steele
Duane Davis ... G.T. Briggs
Keith Diamond ... George Thomas
Charley Lang ... Dr. Halligan
Paul Lieber ... Dr. Mark Merrick
Conor O'Farrell ... Lt. Commander Phil Albano
Vaughn Armstrong ... Lee Minikus
Troy Winbush ... Quentin
Dean Denton ... Cop
Stephen Quadros ... Lab Worker
Vincent Riotta ... Simon Rodia

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Things do seem to be getting back on track this week. It took ten months, but John is now back in the good graces of Majestic, where the writers should have kept him all along. Being a valuable agent, but the non-conformist of the group is the best way to maintain interaction and conflict, which is what they've been trying to do all along, with mixed success.

I always like to catch goofs to submit to IMDB, and so I was excited to catch the fact that George Thomas likes to call all federal agents "Maxwell Smart", even though Get Smart didn't debut until several weeks after the events of this episode. But when I went to submit it, someone had beaten me to it. Bummer.

Not thrilled to see the return of the Man of Steele (which just opened in theaters on the very day we were watching this episode--Coincidence? I don't think so!), but at least this time they didn't make him indestructible.

Kim's pretty much history, I think. Even if she comes back, as I assume she will, she's Hive and can never be back to her old relationship with John. And, what an amazing coincidence, there's a gorgeous widow handy! Not sure this bode's well.

Now we know the reason for the invasion: the Grays are after our strawberry ice cream. I live within walking distance of Ray's Ice Cream, makers of the best ice cream on the planet. This should be ground central for the invasion. Not a good choice of neighborhood.

The only part I didn't like was the very forced moralizing about rioting at the end. That seemed to come out of nowhere and didn't really fit. Or make sense, for that matter. But, as with last week, the final 30 seconds doesn't really harm the episode.

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by - dtmuller on Sat Jun 15 2013 06:28:58
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It took ten months, but John is now back in the good graces of Majestic, where the writers should have kept him all along. Being a valuable agent, but the non-conformist of the group is the best way to maintain interaction and conflict, which is what they've been trying to do all along, with mixed success.

You've just summarized everything beautifully. Back in 97 I kept wanting John to act on an official capacity for two reasons: he'd wear a suit again, and he'd look more like Mulder on the FBI... But now I see that the way you presented your reasons, you've explained my point better than I could.

I always like to catch goofs to submit to IMDB, and so I was excited to catch the fact that George Thomas likes to call all federal agents "Maxwell Smart", even though Get Smart didn't debut until several weeks after the events of this episode. But when I went to submit it, someone had beaten me to it. Bummer.

Just weeks? I had the impression Get Smart was from 1966, but then I never checked. Well, at least the episodes I remember are mostly from '66.

Man of Steele (which just opened in theaters on the very day we were watching this episode--Coincidence? I don't think so!), but at least this time they didn't make him indestructible

Look at the bright side, they showed Steele LEAVING.

The only part I didn't like was the very forced moralizing about rioting at the end. That seemed to come out of nowhere and didn't really fit. Or make sense, for that matter. But, as with last week, the final 30 seconds doesn't really harm the episode.

As charmed has pointed out, Dark Skies is preachy. They want to give the episode a moral center so they have a story that supposedly goes beyond the conspiracy adventure stuff, but they go too heavy.

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So, John wanted to name his son Ray... For a moment I'd forgotten it was because of his annoying brother. But come on, why would he want to name his kid "Gray" without a "G"?
John: "I think we should name him Ray. What do you think?"
Kim: "I have a better idea. Since he grew inside me, what about Anglion?"

I didn't know almost anything about the Watts Towers. I think I had seen it on some TV show before. I mean, when I saw it I immediately recognized them, but I don't know where from. Anyway, it was interesting to learn about their origin, as well as their fake origin, Dark Skies-style. The idea was nicely woven into the story, though, do they really look like DNA strands?

What are they going to do with the Gray now? I kept imagining the scene with John and Juliet in the mall taking Gray for strawberry ice-cream. Gray would be disguised as a kid, of course, with an LA Dodgers cap and dark glasses, of course, and holding a red balloon.

Last episode, the aliens' tractor beam could barely pull up a child (as long as nobody else held her) and now they have a teleportation beam that can instantly teleport two adults! It's nice to know that the Hive's R&D department works so quickly to solve its technical problems, and that only speaks to their efficiency.

And then we had one cliched "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" moment. That's been done so much it's hard not to make a joke about it.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2588712704/h1F5BAE5E/
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4285915904/h48FA1D26/
You literally get the picture, right?

The Gray was definitely a great addition to the cast. I loved its interaction with Albano, of all people.

And so Kim felt compelled to leave the show, or the writers felt compelled to write her off, and leave the path free for John and Juliet. Too bad there aren't enough episodes left to make that believable.

All in all, I sort of liked the episode, in spite of the heavy moralizing about racial issues. It's certainly an important episode in the show because of Kim's departure. But they spent too much time with the riots, and that had nothing to do with anything, really. This one gets 7 servings of strawberry ice cream.

PS. I had been thinking the next show to watch could be "Gray's Anatomy," but then I learned what it was really about... What a disappointment!

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But they spent too much time with the riots, and that had nothing to do with anything, really.


I took them to be a convenient diversion/obstruction to protect/obscure the Hive operations there. Definitely made it dangerous for white folk like Majestic personnel (don't think there's a single black guy in that organization) to go near there. Wasn't Steele sort of watching from the beginning incident (the cops arresting the "drunk driver") that ended up escalating? I might have to look again to see if one of the cops, or one of the initial protesters against the cops, had any sort of "air" of being Hive.


Understanding is a three-edged sword.

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This Friday on “Dark Skies” ep 16: “Burn, Baby, Burn”

Wow back on track this is my favorite episode so far. Just when I was about done with this series it’s starting to get good. When I found out Kim was pregnant I thought to myself did I miss something didn’t even know they were married. Did they have a shotgun wedding between commercial cause having a baby out of wedlock in the sixties was not in. Boy haves times changed. My Gray buddy sure was mad when Kim left him alone while she journeyed to Cali to have her alien child. My question is it Johns baby or our Man of Steele he sure seemed to be buddy buddy when they were beamed up on their way to the dark side of the moon? We may be done with Kim but Steele will be back you can count on it. I’m trying to figure out will the show be better off without Kim slowing John down he should be free to kick Gray bug butts now that Kim is possible gone. Just don’t think Kim can escape and why would they release her.

Well Happy Fathers day to all.

Hope everyone has a good week next week.

Are you back Stone from your mission?

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by - wlcebtg on Sun Jun 16 2013 15:52:12
This Friday on “Dark Skies” ep 16: “Burn, Baby, Burn”

Wow back on track this is my favorite episode so far. Just when I was about done with this series it’s starting to get good. When I found out Kim was pregnant I thought to myself did I miss something didn’t even know they were married.

Actually this whole married-not-married thing has always sounded a bit strange to me. People kept referring to them as married, as in "Your wife is very nice, Mr. Loengard," and then he would insist to make it clear they were not married. But come on, they lived together, shared a life together, so it sounded a bit silly to make it a point to insist they were not really married.

It could be a 1960s thing, though if the wedlock was so important back then, all the more reason they would have not to emphasize the fact they were leaving in sin. And I have observed the same couple dynamics in another show, which took place nowadays, 666 Park Avenue.

I don't know about the legal details in the American system, but in Brazil if you've lived with the same woman for a period of time, I think six months, guess what, you ARE married, pal, papers or no papers.

One last thing: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WLCEBTG!

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It doesn't make much sense. In the early/mid '60s, living together "without benefit of clergy", as we would say, was unusual and almost universally unacceptable. John and Kim would find that many hotels and apartments would refuse to accept them. In some states "cohabitation implying sexual immorality" was a criminal offense. Realistically, they would be doing just the opposite--pretending they were married and correcting anyone who referred to "your boyfriend/girlfriend".

Even as late as the late '70s/early '80s there was a very popular sitcom (Three's Company) about a guy and two women who shared an apartment, and the guy had to pretend to be gay so the landlord wouldn't throw them out.

The "six months together and you're married" rule is called common-law marriage in the U.S., and was once commonplace. The length of time varied from state to state, but I think six months was on the short side. In most states, it's not recognized anymore.

And I'll add "Happy Birthday" to wlcebtg as well!

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I remember Three's Company quite well. It's the first show I truly enjoyed when I was in the USA for the first time. The second I think was Get Smart. I remember the situation in which Jack Tripper found himself and always thought it was a bit of an exaggeration on the part of Mr. Furley (OK, I cheated, I had to look up the name of Don Knotts's character.) Anyway, I think 1979 was a time in which a man having to pretend he was gay because he wasn't married to any of the girls was over the top enough to be funny, but that still (sort of) made sense. The same situation now would be so completely ridiculous, the newer generations wouldn't even understand it.

Anyway, I think this whole "No, we're not married, she's just my girlfriend" situation is something I found really strange at 666 Park Avenue, when the guy would be constantly correcting others who referred to them as husband and wife. Here people use words like "husband" and "wife" so loosely (too loosely, I would say) that we don't even ask anymore. I think it's even ridiculous when a teenage girl refers as to the mother of her boyfriend "my mother-in-law", a boy friend whom she's probably been dating steadily for a month or so. But I guess part of the thrill of being in a "serious relationship" is pretending your boyfriend's/girlfriend's family are actually your in-laws, without necessarily having to take the risks real marriage entitles.

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Thanks for the birthday shout out made it fifty six time around the planet. Hoping for a few more good journeys around the sun.

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56? For some reason I'm guessing I'm still the new kid on the block. I'll just turn 50 in September.

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50? 56?

Mere children.

(OK, since I know you're gonna ask: 58)

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Did they have a shotgun wedding between commercial cause having a baby out of wedlock in the sixties was not in


Oh it happened quite a bit, though often there was still huge pressure for the couple to marry before the pregnancy showed. I was born out of wedlock myself, though that was 1968, where cultural conventions had changed quite a bit from even 1964.

But they were a bit older than a lot of out-of-wedlock parents that got pressured into marriage (often in or right out of high school)--and they lived on the road so to speak (even back in Majestic, we never see them make a home, though they must have had an apartment or something somewhere), not in the same town as their parents nor any other place where they were deeply rooted, which would be a situation where they'd be pressured to marry to avoid social stigma.

Thing is though, I thought she was on the pill, and that they were generally in agreement that now wasn't the time to bring a kid into the world. Though the pill does have a 1% failure rate or something like that. (Or if it was part of a big Hive plan, as seemingly implied, maybe that regrowing Ganglion somehow influenced her to "forget" to take the pill at some point .)


Understanding is a three-edged sword.

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wow, tardy to the party...been out of state this week just got back today. You guys have covered most everything pretty well, I think the show is actually starting to make real progress, I liked this one pretty good with the exception of Jason...I mean steel coming back to life again.

Kim makes her exit, for good? hmmm who knows but it did make for a great over the top Nooooooooooooooooooooo from John. I live for those scenes, Vader, Kirk, Bender. Just love ever time I get to see a great nooooooooooooooooooooo.

Not quite sure why the gray felt betrayed by Kim, nor am I sure why he didn't bother to tell her she had a problem. All in all the show has made great strides ever since the congressional hearings. I am going to give this one
8 watts towers, getting better.

Oh yeah, with Kim gone, who the hell is going to say....what are we doing John? There goes part of my drinking game.

http://codenamestone.blogspot.com/

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I don't have a good "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" clip, but I did come across a terrific "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no...." clip. I used to watch The Addams Family when I was a kid, but I now realize that, at 10 years old, I couldn't really appreciate Carolyn Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUg3Emz7hpI

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Then there's Cleveland's "no, no, no, No, NO!" whenever his house caves in and he's in the bathtub. That Family Guy gag always cracks me up.


Understanding is a three-edged sword.

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