Really, it seems impossible for a logical resolution to that episode. The only thing I can conclude from that period was Timothy Leary, Sirhan Sirhan, and the killer of Dr. King were hive.
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I wonder exactly when it was in the whole produciton process they knew they weren't going to get renewed for the next season. Because it seems like they just went out on a limb and made the ending as far-fetched as they could on their budget. I don't think there was any coming back from that.
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
As I recall from interviews, John was going to escape the Hive ship with his son and Juliet, and somehow end up in the 80s. Charles Manson was Steele, or something.
shareSteel's fate was sealed. He was living under the name Charles Manson and recruiting hippies to commit what became one of the most well known and gruesome murders in US history. That's why Manson seems so crazy and unintelligible when he talks to any interviewer, he's hive.
Loengard's son chose to go with him and Kim did not in the final shot of the episode. I assume that a second season would pick up at some point after John and his son had returned to Earth in whatever way it took. Perhaps they used some alien escape pod and crashed somewhere in the woods in middle America where John and his boy hid out for the next decade and a half or so. Perhaps Loengard became one of those "crazy conspiracy nuts" out in the woods who calls up Art Bell.
I know that Bryce Zabel said they wanted to cover some 40 years of history in 4 seasons. He covered quite a few years in Season 1, but he said they had always planned to jump ahead a few years. They had come up with quite a few alien involvements in "official history" (probably Watergate, Skylab's crashing back into Earth's atmosphere, the Iranian revolution and the rise of radical Islam, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the US invasion of Grenada, the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagen, the Challenger explosion, Oliver North, Saddam Hussein) but hadn't exactly figured out Loengard's involvement.
Zabel said that they might jump ahead some 10/20 years in once single bound and cast Eric Close as Loengard's son while casting an older actor as Loengard. I always thought Kent McCord (John's father) would have made a good older version on John. Of course I used to think McCord was the narrator and voice of older John, OOPS. Turns out it was Gregory Harrison who voiced older John, I'm assuming they planned on him replacing Eric Close as he's 17 years older and both look similar to each other. It's such a shame they didn't get to run for all 4 years. I don't think any series has ever done something like that. Followed a 40 year alternate history where the main character starts as one actor and gets replaced half way though and the original actor becomes his son.
As for Kim, she seemed pretty tied to hive by that point. Perhaps she became some infamously evil person who did horrible things for some time. Perhaps she was on a spaceship and because of the relativistic effects of near light travel she barely aged in 20+ years. But at some point I assume she was to have returned and Loengard was to have flipped her back to the good side, as evidenced by her voice over warning John in the opening titles.
What Dark Skies to me is what was bastardized by Spielberg for "taken." It seems TOO much like the exact same premise and style.
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I read somewhere that Kim's fate was to become Squeeky From (sp?).
shareReally? That's a bit icky, tying them into Charles Manson and his mob.
I know it was an American show, but I would have liked to see a few things happen or real-life events tied in that weren't specifically US-oriented.
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
It's ashame that with all the remakes that the networks try to do e.g. Bionic Woman, Night Stalker, which failed you'd think they'd give this series a shot.
Maybe do a movie at least on SCIFI channel after showing a marathon of the Series. I saw a couple episodes rerun on SCIFI but never really saw them all so I didn't know the Big story. Oh well maybe some day I'll at least get to watch the episodes.
Also one part of Taken was directed by Tobe Hoper who directed Dark Skies' pilot.
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Putting historical figures with the whole UFO conspiracy was a good gimmick but started to wear thin as the realisation that there is just no way that the presence of aliens on our planet could have been hidden that long even in the age of no widespread Internet.
The series finale seemed like a rush up job to tie up as many strands as possible because the producers knew DARK SKIES wasn't going to be renewed.
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My understanding was that the last episode we saw wasn't meant to be the season finally. That episode took place 1967 and the last episode where suppose to take place 1969 (my guess being about the moon landing). The Voice Over in the end where a try to let us know that everything worked out.
I think the idea to jump 10 years forward was in a try to get them to give the show a new chance.
I really loved the show and it's major twists that you never saw coming (like Kim).
I know the shows creators where still trying to get a sequel made and almost had it when they got screwed 2009. But unlike X-Files this show doesn't have the same cult following.
Would be awesome if they could at least get chance to make an real ending.
As it stood at that moment, most things would be easy to resolve me whether or not they jump ahead at the start of the next season with the exception of the corner they were painting themselves into vis-a-vis the people people they put on the MJ-12 board.
Placing daddy Bush on MJ-12 in 1967 is way too early for him. He was not significant enough to be there. Vannevar Bush would have been a far more logical choice. Likewise, Poindexter was only 31 at the time. No way he gets on there. Having all of Humphrey, Kennedy and Kissinger on it at the same time requires careful juggling. Kennedy is inherently opposed to the whole thing and is at loggerheads with Dulles over both Majestic and the assassination. Is Kennedy killed by the hive or does he go rogue and MJ-12 decides to do it? Then Humphrey runs in against Nixon, somehow loses both in 68 and doesn't even get the nomination in 72 (I guess the hive wanted to keep him out). Kissinger is then sent in to "handle" Nixon who perhaps gets too close to the truth and is removed in Watergate. They would have to launder the historic Kissinger who was involved in a lot of nasty business. It would require some very fancy steps to pull all of that off. Not impossible of course but tricky and they did not have to set up such problems for themselves. They could have the board break down completely in conflict and later be reconstituted.
The main characters are easily dealt with. Regarding John on the ship, it seems his child had been socialized but not implanted so the plan somehow works and he gets back with him and Juliet. Not a big problem there. They have options with Kim either eventually going back or becoming a permanent hive operative. The later keeps Juliet with John which could be played out many ways.
They could have Frank wearing a vest and coming back to either kill Albano or drive Albano away. Albano becomes the new Steele as Steele plays out the Manson saga (I thought that angle was good). Alternatively, Franks is dead and some other fate befalls Albano. Having shot Frank, he cannot simply stay in house at Majestic. There are lots of options with those characters and they can always bring new ones in. Furthermore, the time period of 67-74 gives them massive amounts of interesting historical material to weave things into.
Timothy Leary was not Hive.
He learned that the brown acid was alien based; make an effort for people not to trip on it.
And to have an eye on counter-culture for things amiss. Leary becoming a valuable resource for the resistance.