What happen to season 3


Were we just spoiled with good writing in season 2?

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I read that the execs thought season 2 was too dark and asked the writers to make the show more cartoony and kiddy. The story editors' influence diminished, and this more or less resulted in the entire season becoming a mess.

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I don't know, they cancelled "Dark Glass," but there's still some pretty dark stuff in season 3.

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I agree that season 3 isn't that good, but I still find it better than anything from Beast Machines.

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We can blame Season 3 nearly all on Asaph Fipke or whatever his name is...


Tired of people telling me how young I am when I feel so old...

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I particularly disliked the way the resolution of the S2 cliffhanger was handled.

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The problem with season 3 was making Optimus a giant, it just removed all tension from the show and made him a lot less relatable as a character.

Also, go with the flow. F'ckin hell, they asked you to replace dark glass with something lighter...not a piece of gutter-trash.

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The problem with season 3 was making Optimus a giant, it just removed all tension from the show

Well they had a new toy to sell, so they had to work him in somehow.

and made him a lot less relatable as a character.

As opposed to the metal ape on the flying surfboard who came from an alien planet in the future and went back to prehistoric Earth? He was more relateable then? But growing a few feet taller and adding a car mode made him unrelateable? LOL.

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growing a few feet taller and adding a car mode made him unrelateable? LOL.


he wasn't just a few feet taller. he was a giant. a GI-ANT. it hurt the show, specially given that season 3 was meant to be about the maximals at their most desperate: their base has been destroyed, they're struggling to protect the future of their race in this Ark and they're barely holding the place together. Oh, but Optimus is a GIANT 

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I felt the real problem with Optimus becoming a "giant" was that after that they couldn't think of ways to utilize him without overshadowing the others, so he'd often have to sit episodes out or get punked, at least that's how I remember it (been a long time since I watched any BW).

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What's wrong with season 3? I enjoy it. The finale is great and I love how it ties in with the original show. Watching it as a kid? It blew me away. I think the entire show is pretty consistent with season 2 being the high point

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Season 3 was kind of all over the place. The pacing was bad, several episodes were pretty filler-tier and slow, all the focus they put on the characters getting upgraded hurt the overall story. If this was a 26 episode season, this wouldn't have been so bad, but since they had to cram in all this stuff into 13 eps, it made things feel very rushed, especially towards the end.

Also, this made some of the upgrades and new characters feel insignificant: for example Blackarachnia's transformation into a Transmetal II is built up for several episodes, but when she finally gets upgraded, she's immediately pushed to the back because they now had to focus on Megatron, and the show was almost over by that point anyway. And lets not even mention Tigerhawk.

The comedy aspect got way overblown too -- I know the show has been zany and goofy since the start, but in season 3, all the cartoony gags really undermined a lot of the dramatic moments. And this goes hand in hand with how many characters, like Inferno or Quickstrike, were reduced to nothing more than overplayed comic relief characters.


It's not a bad season, and it's still very entertaining, but it was a huge downgrade compared to the second season, which managed to handle drama, comedy, characters and story way-way-way more elegantly.

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Season 3 is rough to me. I agree with everything you said except for the last paragraph. But on top of all that, after the brilliance of season 2 it's just a big let down. It feels shallow and empty while season 2 felt beyond epic.

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