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Trying to figure this out from a historical perspective.


I saw this in class a few weeks ago. I didn't get to see the ending, so maybe they do explain the history behind this, but here I'm trying to make a guess as to how this situation could occur.

See, here's the basic rundown (I'm probably generalizing). In order for black people to have always dominated American society, they would have had to colonize first. In order for them to have colonized first, they would have needed an original reason to leave Africa, before the Europeans felt the need to leave Europe.

Note: I'm presuming that the darker-skinned people are still from Africa and the lighter-skinned people are still from Europe. I tried to imagine this switched around, but the pigmentation and melanin would never have come out right. Therefore, I presume that people's ancestors remained on the same continent as in our reality.

Two things:

1) In all the books I've read, Africans didn't need to "advance" their civilization, because their civilization was working from their perspective. There were no limited resources, it was too hot to carry around clothing and materials. From their perspective, before the Europeans came, there was everything they needed, in abundance. Yes there was war and racism, but hey, that's human nature.

2) White people come from colder places. They needed to build places that could stay warm, to make clothing that would keep them warm, to build farms and keep livestock. Therefore, materialism was much more abundant in areas that white people came from, leading them to expand, and eventually cross oceans to discover new worlds.

Also: I realize that there are farms in Africa, and people wear clothing, and I recognize that there are nomads in Europe. Perhaps said nomads like the cold and are naked. I'm generalizing here. Work with me.

Now here's the thing. In order for this black-people-on-top reality to work, Africans would have needed to leave Africa for whatever reason. In order for them to have conquered the Europeans the way we conquered them in real life, they would have had to have found a Europe as broken and tribal as the Africa the European explorers found. Europe was like that once...in the mythological age, before 1250 BC (appr.), before Vikings hopped on their longships and raped and pillaged and burned Europe to the ground. Perhaps, in this reality, Africans actually replace the Vikings in bringing apocalyptic smackdown on people. I emphasize: perhaps. The movie has made no reference to explaining why black people dominate white people. It seems to be a tragic portrait of John Travolta's character. I think he dies in the end.

In all this I'm guessing. I'm further guessing that in order for Africans to want to leave Africa, there had to have been some sort of blight, on crops, fish, or animals. Perhaps even a large fire, volcanic eruption, or a flood as great as the Biblical flood. The Africans would have had to lose some source of life in order for them to leave the bountiful Africa. This may not be the direct catalyst to conquering the white people, but it would have the eventual effect, because also, the Africans that conquer Europe and the Americas probably were strong; they may have come with guns, or kickass swords, or something. In the mythological age, the Africans were caught off guard by mere horses and chariots. The Africans may have had the Viking element of surprise, but in order for them to dominate, they would have had to have some sort of super-weapon (in this reality, the Africans invented muskets, perhaps).

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Dude, it's just a movie!

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Yeah, but it's fun to think about the concept, isn't it? And plus you gotta have something to think about on long commutes home. :P

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Yeah it is just a movie but I'm pretty sure the filmmakers wanted you to give it a lot of thought...probably not exactly this aspect of it but still...

Anyway to address your argument uniquecliche,(love the name by the way) maybe historically...like you said that would have to happen. I haven't seen the movie in a while so this is a little hard to address since I don't remember if they mentioned or hinted at any of this at all.

But I think that any turn of events could have happened. For one the blacks could have rebelled at some point. Maybe they could have even enslaved the whites, done a reversal. Especially if they rebelled early enough and maybe even convinced other Africans to come to America. I still see your point about having every thing they needed...for the most part...and curiosity usually isn't enough on its own, but it still could have happened.

Though I also think that if the decision for slavery to expand into the North and West was "ok"ed then that would mean more slaves, thus a better chance for uprisings on mass levels. Or some other similar decision could have been made or actually enforced to drastically change the course of history.



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One think we can assume in the movie the the possible role reveral of Adolf Hitler and Idi Amin switching places.

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This movie should be called "White Man's Guilt." BTW- What role did the Jews play in this movie? I mean, besides Hollywood creating this joke of a movie.

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I agree about the Jewish part if you look at hollywood jews buit it, were they also poor.

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To get back to the subject if Carthage had defeated Rome in the Punic Wars, which the almost did at one point,It's possible the situation in the movie could have happened in real life. Carthage began as a Phoenician trading colony on shore of North Africa, but it quickly developed trade on the continent, deep below the Sahara, for ivory, gold and of course slaves.

As in other ancient civilizations in the region blacks, usually slaves, did most of the heavy lifting. In Carthage they also provided much of military muscle. While, despite what many people think, there is little evidence Hannibal was black, but much of the army he led into Europe, in a unsuccessful effort to conquer the Roman Empire, was.

Had Hannibal defeated the Roman Legion and sacked Rome the Carthaginian leadership would have been faced with another problem. They now controlled the Mediterranean, but how could they manage it, tax it and defend it. After repeated conflicts with Romans for centuries they didn't trust the locals. They didn't want new Roman Legion massing outside of the walls of Carthage intent on burning the city to the ground and putting all of its people to the sword. The answer was to recruit or even abducting warriors from sub Saharan Africa. Soon dark brown skinned members of the Carthaginian Empire became omnipresent from Asia minor to the Laudanum in the British Isles.

the Carthaginians feared and hated Rome they envied its culture. Just as the Romans had appropriated the the art, architecture and mythology of Greece, centuries earlier, so did Carthage with Rome. Craftsmen and architects often traveled to the waste land of ruins that was once Rome to get inspiration. No upper class Carthaginian home was complete without a newly made Roman statuary. Often the member of the black merchant class, who were becoming dominant, would request that artisans put black glaze on their statues (like in this movie).

After a period of persecution a new religion, Christianity, from the far end of the Empire, became excepted and dominant. Even here their was some Afrocentric influences. From the underground vaults and other places, where early Christians had once worshiped in secret to the walls and ceilings of ST Peter's Cathedral in Carthage Christ's Middle Eastern features had been rejected in favor of deep Brown Skin, brown skin and thick coarse hair.

With major Universities in Carthage, Alexandria toward the Eastern end of the Empire and Timbuktu to the south the Carthaginian Empire was the center of western culture. The citizens look disdainfully toward the pale skinned barbarians in the north who continued to worship their pagan gods and live in grass huts. They also looked with fear, because of several incursions into empire. In Britain they used the old Roman solution of building a wall , but elsewhere the answer, as before, was to encourage more immigration, from the south, to the Mediterranean region which, do to centuries interracial marriage and past settlement, was now mostly black.

By the fourteen hundreds the empire was faced with a new rival; the Ottoman Empire. The Legions fought the Ottomans, first during the Crusades and later in Egypt and Nubia. While they were successful at protecting the boarders of the empire they could not free up the trade routes to India and China, now blocked deep into Asia. A search began to find western sea route to Asia. This resulted in the discovery of what became known as the North and South Great Continents.

Efforts began to exploit the resources of the mew lands, but there was a problem; a shortage of workers. In the tropical regions they were able to enslave the indigenous people, but what of the colder temperate regions in the north?

Someone thought of the pale skinned barbarians. They lived in the Enslaving them would be "God's work". As slaves they could be forced to convert to Christianity and give up their savage ways. From the land of the Scott's to deep in the eastern regions the European slave trade began.

As time went on the the invention of the printing press led to new Democratic ideas. One result was an area of the Carthaginian Empire, on the Great Northern Continent, breaking away and becoming the Great Coastal Union; later the Continental Union as the land, stretching to the Great Western Sea, was conquered.

From the beginning, white slavery was acceptable in the cooler north, but not the warm south, the issue was divisive. Under abolitionist pressure the Carthaginian Empire outlawed slavery during the early eighteen hundreds. The movement spread to the Continental Union south. The publication of "Uncle Olaf's Cabin", by Cleo Laboley also inflamed emotions. Then there were conflict in the free states and the incident at Hannibal's Ferry.

It require a bloody Civil War to settle the matter. The industrial ultimately defeated the agricultural the Northern Confederate States (NCS), but while white slavery was gone discrimination against whites wasn't. In the north there were the Jim Smith laws that controlled ever aspect of white life. In the south whites were discriminated against in hiring and housing. The result was the great white migration to the south.

During the 1950s several landmark ruling, by the US Supreme Court, began to erode anti white discrimination in education . Also the white civil rights movement began with the Chicago bus boycott. During the 1960s there was the freedom riders in Illinois and Wisconsin and the voting rights marches in Michigan. There were also major riots in the white ghettos of the south as well as the north often sparked by police brutality.

The Civil Rights Bill ended legal discrimination against white people.Despite decades of progress subtle discrimination against whites remains a major social problem in the twenty first century.

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The crashing obviousness of the movie's theme aside, from an historical perspective you can only wonder how this would ever come to fruition.

African tribes always had primitive military technology. To this day, they are largely obselete and undeveloped in that regard. Yet, when African nations come to the New World, we are supposed to believe that they were strong enough to withstand battle with European colonists and hence establish dominance over the continent which became their new home. A far-fetched premise, indeed.

The only credible way this would happen would be if the African nations took over the New World without any effort by the Europeans to compete with them. Possible, but highly improbable.

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Uniquecliche, Africa did have advance civilizations. All of the books you have read probably supports a racist and white supremacist agenda that attempts to justify what occurred during US chattel slavery. An overwhelming amount of historians and anthropologist were and are racist. Some of them have a white supremacist agenda. Please see below for the African Kings and Queens and the kingdoms they ruled' Some of these existed before and some existed during the initial European involvement in African society. Please think before you post.


AKHENATON
The Creator of Monotheism
(1375-1358 B.C)

Akhenaton was the first ruler in recorded history to believe in the concept of One God. He also taught this concept to all his citizens. He built a new city in the desert that was dedicated to religion, art and music. This new city, Akhenaton (now Tell el Amara), with its lush gardens and magnificent buildings is where Akhenaton and his wife Queen Nefertiti changed Kemet's culture so radically that their influence is felt for centuries right up until today. Akhenaton was also the first Pharaoh of whom a true likeness is recorded as shown in the picture to the left.




ASKIA TOURE
KING OF SONGHAY (1493-1529)

Askia Toure united the entire central region of the Western Sudan, and established a governmental machine that is still revered today for its detail and efficiency. He divided his country into provinces, each with a professional administrator as governor, and ruled each fairly and uniformly through a staff of distinguished legal experts and judges.



BEHANZIN HOSSU BOWELLE
THE KING SHARK (1841-1906)

Behanzin was the most powerful ruler in West Africa during the end of the nineteenth century. He strongly resisted European intervention into his country. This was done with a physically fit army which included a division of five thousands female warriors. He is often referred to as the King Shark, a Dahomeyan surname which symbolized strength and wisdom. He was also fond of humanities and is credited with the creation of some of the finest song and poetry ever produced in Dahomey.



IDRIS ALOOMA
RULER OF BORNU (1580-1617)

He is credited with re-uniting two of Africa's Kingdoms, the kingdoms of Kanem and Bornu. This union lasted many generations with sustain peace becoming a part of the Bornu.


IMHOTEP
THE WORLD FIRST KNOWN GENIUS

Imhotep was the royal advisor to King Zoser during the Third Dynasty of Kemet. Regarded as the world's first recorded multi-genius, Imhotep was an architect, astronomer, philosopher, poet and physician. As an architect he was responsible for designing the Step Pyramid and the Saqqara Complex. During his lifetime he was given a host of titles, among them:Chancellor of the King of Lower Kemet, the First after the King of Upper Kemet, High Priest of Heliopolis and Administrator of the Great Palace. As a physcian, Imhotep is believed to have been the author of the Edwin Smith Papyrus in which more than 90 anatomical terms and 48 injuries are described. This is well over 2,200 years before the Western Father of Medicine Hippocrates is born. Some 2,000 years after his death, Imhotep was deified by the inhabitants of Kemet and was known later as Asclepius, God of Medicine, to the Greeks. His very name, Im-Hotep, translates as the Prince of Peace. His tomb near Memphis became a sacred place and the site of pilgrimages for those seeking a cure. As a philosopher and poet, Imhotep's most remembered phrase is: "Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we shall die." There still remain many bronze statuettes, temples and sanatoria bearing his name, as is depicted in the picture of the statue above.


JA JA
KING OF THE OPOBO (1821-1891)

He was the founder and leader of the territory of Opobo an area near the Eastern Nigeria River. This area was very favorable to trading. This trading route soon attracted the greedy Europeans who seek to capture this trading route. Ja Ja put up fierce resistance to this outside intervention. This resistance lasted for many years until at an older age of 70 he was finally captured by the British and sent into exile to the West Indies. The greatest Ibo leader of the nineteenth century never saw his kingdom again.


KHAMA
THE GOOD KING OF BECHUANALAND (1819-1923)

Khama distinguish his reign by being highly regarded as a peace loving ruler with the desire of advancing his country in terms of technological innovations. He instituted scientific cattle feeding techniques which greatly inproved his country's wealth and prestige. During his reign crimes were known to be as low as zero within his country.

KHUFU
The Father Of Pyramid Building (2551-2528 B.C)
King Khufu, who is also known by the greek name "Cheops," was the father of pyramid building at Giza. He ruled from 2551 - 2528 B.C. and was the son of King Sneferu and Queen Hetpeheres. Dates Built: c. 2589-2566 B.C. Total Blocks of Stone: over 2,300,000

Base: 13 square acres, 568,500 square feet, or 7 city blocks. The length of each side of the base was originally 754 feet (230 m), but is now 745 feet (227 m) due to the loss of the outer casing stones.

Total Weight: 6.5 million tons. Average Weight of Individual Blocks of Stone: 2.5 tons, the large blocks used for the ceiling of the King's Chamber weigh as much as 9 tons.
Height: Originally 481 feet (146.5 m) tall, Khufu is now, 449 feet tall as the top stones have since fallen off or been removed. Until early in this century, this pyramid was the tallest building on earth.
Angle of Incline: 51 degrees 50' 35"
Construction Material: limestone, granite



MANSA KANKAN MUSSA
KING OF MALI (1306-1332)

A scholar, a great economists and a true man of the arts, Mansa Mussa is well known for the impact he created with his flamboyant style. In 1324 he led his people on the Hadj, a holy pilgrimage from Timbuktu to Mecca. His caravan consisted of 72 000 people whom he led safely across the Sahara Desert and back, a total distance of 6,496 miles. So spectacular was this event that Mansa Mussa gained the respect of scholars and traders throughout the world. Also during his reign, Mali was one of the most prestigious and wealthiest empires in the world. This empire at this time also contain one of the worlds most prestigious university in Timbuktu.


MENELEK II
KING OF KINGS OF ABYSSINIA (1844-1913)

Menelek II united many independent kingdoms into the United States of Abyssinia (Ethiopia). The feat of pulling together several kingdoms which often fiercely opposed each other earned him a place as one of the great statesmen of African history. His further acomplishments in dealing on the international scene with the world powers, coupled with his stunning victory over Italy in the 1896 Battle of Adwa, which was an attempt to invade his country, place him among the great leaders of world history.


MOSHOESHOE
KING OF BASUTOLAND (1815-1868)

Moshoeshoe was a wise and just king who was as brilliant in diplomacy as he was in battle. He united many diverse groups into a stable society where law and order prevailed. He knew that peace made prosperity possible, so he often avoided conflict through skillful negotiations. Moshoeshoe solidified Basotho defenses at Thaba Bosiu, their impregnable mountain capital.

MUTATO
THE GREAT MUTOTA (1440)

The year was 1440. The King was Mutota. In any other European country he would have been known as Mutota the Great. He and his council was quick to see that even the most advance states each standing independently and alone, were doomed to European criminal exploits unless unified into a single nation with a strong central government. This also should be achieve through voluntary association if possible. Mutota and the new leaders understood this very well. Therefore, Mutota, in 1440, began the campaign to carry out his grand design. This was a great plan aimed at nothing less than uniting Africans into a vast empire that cut across South Africa below the Limpopo river, and covered Zimbabwe with an indefinite boundary beyond the Zambezi River in Zambia, and on over Mozambique to the Indian Ocean, sweeping southward again to re-posses the entire coastline fronting the New Empire. This area contained the majority of the world precious metals such as gold, copper, tin and iron held in over 4000 mines. After 30 years of struggle, unity was finally achieve in 1480 into the Empire of Monomotapa.


NARMER
THE FOUNDER OF DYNASTIC KEMET (3200 B.C.)

Narmer or Aha was called Menes by the Greeks. Regarded as the founder of Dynastic Kemet, he led an army from Upper Kemet in the south to conquer Lower Kemet in the north around 3200BC. Upon victory Narmer united Upper and Lower Kemet into one nation after which thirty dynasties would follow. It was at this time that hieroglyphic writing or any type of writing in the world for that matter, made its first appearance, in the tombs and treasures of the pharaohs. One of Narmer's first tasks was to build a city on his newly conquered lands. Here he was met with a difficult task as the Delta region was covered by an immense swamp. To remedy this situation, Narmer drained the swamp by actually diverting the course of the Nile River. Upon this new land he built a city which he named Men-Nefer:The Good Place. This city served as the capital of Kemet for several centuries. An Arab traveler writing as late as the Middle Ages reported the city "stretching a day's journey in every direction." The Greeks would rename Men-Nefer "Memphis," a name that even today honors an African king who lived nearly 5,000 years ago.



OSEI TUTU
KING OF ASANTE (1680-1717)

Osei Tutu was the founder and first king of the Asante nation, a great West African kingdom in what is now Ghana. He was able to unite over six different nations under his leadership. The Golden Stole became a sacred symbol of the nation's soul, which was especially appropriate since gold was the prime source of Asante wealth. During Osei Tutu's reign, the geographic area of Asante tripled in size. The kingdom became a significant power, that with his millitary and and political prowess as an example, would endure for two centuries.



SAMORY TOURE
King of the Sudan (1830-1900)

The ascendance of Samory Toure began when his native Bissandugu was attacked and his mother taken captive. After a persuasive appeal, Samory was allowed to take her place, but later escaped and joined the army of King Bitike Souane of Torona. Following a quick rise through the ranks of Bitike's army, Samory returned to Bissandugu where he was soon installed as king and defied French wicked exploits in Africa by launching a conquest to unify West Africa into a single state. During the eigthteen year conflict with France, Samory continully frustrated the Europeans with his military strategy and tactics. This astute millitary prowess brought him respect world wide.



SENWORSERT I
PHARAOH OF THE 12TH DYNASTY

Senwosert I was a Twelfth Dynasty King of Kemet (1897BC). Also known as Kepre Kare Senwosert I, he was known to the Greeks as Kekrops and Sesostris. Interestingly enough Herodotus, Greece's Father of History, reported that Greece had once been conquered by a king named Sesostris. Greek mythology also indicated that the legendary founder of Athens was an Egyptian named Kekrops.



SHAKA
KING OF THE ZULUS (1818-1828)

A strong leader and military innovator, Shaka is noted for revolutionizing 19th century Bantu warfare by first grouping regiments by age, and training his men to use standardized weapons and special tactics. He developed the "assegai" a short stabbing spear, and marched his regiments in tight formation, using large shields to fend off the enemies throwing spears. Over time, Shaka's troops earned such a reputation that many enemies would flee at the sight of them. He built the Zulus into a nation of over a million strong. He was also sucessful in uniting all the ethnic groups in South Africa against the despicable vestiges of colonialism.



TAHARKA
KING OF NUBIA (710-664 B. C.)

Taharka is probably one of the most famous rulers of Napatan Kush. He was 32 when he became king and was heir to a kingdom that included not only Kush but KMT(Kemet) as well. He is said to have commanded military campaigns in Western Asia as far away as Palestine and led expeditions all the way to Spain. Mention of his great campaigns can be found in the Bible (Isaiah 37:9, 2 Kings 19:9). During his reign, Taharka controlled the largest empire in Ancient Africa. He was able to initiate a building program throughout his empire which was overwhelming in scope. The numbers and majesty of his building projects were legendary, with the greatest being the temple at Gebel Barkal in the Sudan. The temple was carved from the living rock and decorated with images of Taharka over 100 feet high.



TENKAMENIN
KING OF GHANA (1037-1075)

The country of Ghana reach the height of its greatness during the reign of Tenkamenin. Through his careful management of the gold trade across the Sahara desert into West Africa, Tenkamenin's empire flourished economically. But his greatest strength was in government. Each day he would ride out on horseback and listen to the problems and concerns of his people. He insisted that no one be denied an audience and that they be allowed to remain in his presence until satisfied that justice had been done. His principles of democratic monarchy and religious tolerance make Tenkamenin's reign one of the great models of African rule.



THUTMOSE III
PHARAOH OF KEMET (1504-1450 B.C.)

Thutmose III was a member of one of the greatest families in the history of royalty anywhere in the world, the 18th Dynasty of Kemet (Ancient Egypt). He is credited with strengthened the sovereignty of Kemet and extended its influence into Western Asia.





AMINA
QUEEN Of ZARIA (1588-1589)
This queen of Zazzua, a province of Nigeria now known as Zaria, was born around 1533 during the reign of Sarkin (king) Zazzau Nohir. She was probably his granddaughter. Zazzua was one of a number of Hausa city-states which dominated the trans-Saharan trade after the collapse of the Songhai empire to the west. Its wealth was due to trade of mainly leather goods, cloth, kola, salt, horses and imported metals. At the age of sixteen, Amina became the heir apparent (Magajiya) to her mother, Bakwa of Turunku, the ruling queen of Zazzua. With the title came the responsibility for a ward in the city and daily councils with other officials. Although her mother's reign was known for peace and prosperity, Amina also chose to learn military skills from the warriors. Queen Bakwa died around 1566 and the reign of Zazzua passed to her younger brother Karama. At this time Amina emerged as the leading warrior of Zazzua cavalry. Her military achievements brought her great wealth and power. When Karama died after a ten-year rule, Amina became queen of Zazzua. She set off on her first military expedition three months after coming to power and continued fighting until her death. In her thirty-four year reign, she expanded the domain of Zazzua to its largest size ever. Her main focus, however, was not on annexation of neighboring lands, but on forcing local rulers to accept vassal status and permit Hausa traders safe passage. She is credited with popularizing the earthen city wall fortifications, which became characteristic of Hausa city-states since then. She ordered building of a defensive wall around each military camp that she established. Later, towns grew within these protective walls, many of which are still in existence. They're known as "ganuwar Amina", or Amina's walls. She is mostly remembered as "Amina, Yar Bakwa ta san rana," meaning "Amina, daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man.
Contributed by Danuta Bois


CANDACE
EMPRESS OF ETHIOPIA (332 B.C.)

Alexander reached Kemet (Ancient Egypt) in 332 B.C., on his world conquering rampage. But one of the greatest generals of the ancient world was also the Empress of Ethiopia. This formidable black Queen Candace, was world famous as a military tactician and field commander. Legend has it that Alexander could not entertain even the possibilty of having his world fame and unbroken chain of victories marred by risking a defeat, at last, by a woman. He halted his armies at the borders of Ethiopia and did not invade to meet the waiting black armies with their Queen in personal command.


CLEOPATRA VII
QUEEN OF KEMET (Ancient Egypt the land of the blacks) (69-30 B.C)

Although known to be of African descent she is still deliberately portrayed as being white. She came to power at the tender age of seventeen and the most popular of seven queens to have had this name. She was also known to be a great linguist and was instumental in making Kemet(Egypt) into the world number one super power at that time.


DAHIA-AL KAHINA
QUEEN KAHINA

She fought against the Arab incursion in North Africa where under her leadership Africans fought back fiercely and drove the Arab army northward into Tripolitania. Queen Kahina was of the Hebrew faith and she never abandoned her religion. Her opposition to the Arab incursion was purely nationalistic, since she favored neither Christians nor Moslems. Her death in 705 A.D by Hassen-ben-Numam ended one of the most violet attempts to save Africa for the Africans. She prevented Islam's southward spread into the Western Sudan. After her death the Arabs began to change their strategy in advancing their faith and their power in Africa. The resistance to the southward spread of Islam was so great in some areas that some of the wives of African kings committed suicide to avoid falling into the hands of the Berbers and Arabs who showed no mercy to the people who would not be converted to Islam


HATSHEPSUT
QUEEN OF KEMET (Ancient Egypt the land of the blacks)(1503-1482 B.C.)

One of the greatest queens of ancient Kemet was Queen Hatshepsut. While she was known as a "warrior" queen, her battles were engaged with her own rivals for the position of power in Kemetic hierarchy. A born dynast in her own right, Hatshepsut proved to be an aggressive and overpowering force. However, it was not in war, but in her aspiration to ascend to the "Heru (Horus) consciousness," she displayed the strength that has given her a place in history. She adopted the Truth of Maat and became involved in the elimination of undesirable people and elements from Kemet. Determined to be revered in times yet to come, Hatshepsut depicted herself in as many masculine attributes as possible, i.e. male attire, king’s beard, etc. Although she ascended to the throne upon the death of her king-brother Thutmose II, she exerted her rightful claim to the throne. In exercising her power, she involved herself in foreign campaigns, a concentration on domestic affairs, extensive building and commercial ventures. The most famous of her commercial ventures was the Punt expedition in which goods and produce were acquired from the rich market there to be brought back to Kemet. While it would appear that her opponents were not antagonistic regarding her sex, they were so regarding her non-aggressive philosophy.
Even before becoming legal ruler, Hatshepsut, was actively pushing things dearest to the hearts of all Africans leaders: the expansion of foreign trade, international diplomatic relations, perfection of national defense, vast public building programs, securing the South and the North through either peace or war and, one of her "pet projects", building a great navy for both commerce and war. Her success on most of

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of these fronts made her one of the giants of the race.

MAKEDA
QUEEN OF SHEBA (The symbol of Beauty) (960 B.C.)

"I am black but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon, Look not upon me because I am black Because the sun hath scorched me." (Song of Solomon)

Although most of Black history is suppressed, distorted or ignored by an ungrateful modern world, some African traditions are so persistent that all of the power and deception of the Western academic establishment have failed to stamp them out. One such story is that of Makeda, the Queen of Sheba, and King Solomon of Israel. Black women of antiquity were legendary for their beauty and power. Especially great were the Queens of Ethiopia. This nation was also known as Nubia, Kush, Axum and Sheba. One thousand years before Christ, Ethiopia was ruled by a line of virgin queens. The one whose story has survived into our time was known as Makeda, "the Queen of Sheba." Her remarkable tradition was recorded in the Kebar Nagast, or the Glory of Kings, and the Bible. The Bible tells us that, during his reign, King Solomon of Israel decided to build a magnificent temple. To announce this endeavor, the king sent forth messengers to various foreign countries to invite merchants from abroad to come to Jerusalem with their caravans so that they might engage in trade there. At this time, Ethiopia was second only to Egypt in power and fame. Hence, King Solomon was enthralled by Ethiopia's beautiful people, rich history, deep spiritual tradition and wealth. He was especially interested in engaging in commerce with one of Queen Makeda's subjects, an important merchant by the name of Tamrin.1 Solomon sent for Tamrin who "packed up stores of valuables including ebony, sapphires and red gold, which he took to Jerusalem to sell to the king."2 It turns out that Tamrin's visit was momentous. Although accustomed to the grandeur and luxury of Egypt and Ethiopia, Tamrin was still impressed by King Solomon and his young nation. During a prolonged stay in Israel, Tamrin observed the magnificent buildings and was intrigued by the Jewish people and their culture. But above all else, he was deeply moved by Solomon's wisdom and compassion for his subjects. Upon returning to his country, Tamrin poured forth elaborate details about his trip to Queen Makeda. She was so impressed by the exciting story that the great queen decided to visit King Solomon herself.3 To understand the significance of state visits in antiquity in contrast to those of today, we must completely remove ourselves from the present place and time. In ancient times, royal visits were very significant ceremonial affairs. The visiting regent was expected to favor the host with elaborate gifts and the state visit might well last for weeks or even months. Even by ancient standards, however, Queen Makeda's visit to King Solomon was extraordinary. In I Kings 10:1-2, the Bible tells us: "1. And when the Queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the Lord, she came to prove him with hard questions. "2. And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bear spices and very much gold, and precious stones. And when she was come to Solomon she communed with him of all that was in her heart." I Kings 10:10 adds: "She gave the king 120 talents of gold, and of spices very great store and precious stones; there came no more such abundance of spices as these which the Queen of Sheba gave to King Solomon." We should pause to consider the staggering sight of this beautiful Black woman and her vast array of resplendent attendants travelling over the Sahara desert into Israel with more than 797 camels plus donkeys and mules too numerous to count. The value of the gold alone, which she gave to King Solomon, would be $3,690,000 today and was of much greater worth in antiquity. King Solomon, and undoubtedly the Jewish people, were flabbergasted by this great woman and her people. He took great pains to accommodate her every need. A special apartment was built for her lodging while she remained in his country. She was also provided with the best of food and eleven changes of garments daily. As so many African leaders before her, this young maiden, though impressed with the beauty of Solomon's temple and his thriving domain, had come to Israel seeking wisdom and the truth about the God of the Jewish people. Responding to her quest for knowledge, Solomon had a throne set up for the queen beside his. "It was covered with silken carpets, adorned with fringes of gold and silver, and studded with diamonds and pearls. From this she listened while he delivered judgments."4 Queen Makeda also accompanied Solomon throughout his kingdom. She observed the wise, compassionate and spiritual ruler as he interacted with his subjects in everyday affairs. Speaking of the value of her visit with the King and her administration for him, Queen Makeda stated: "My Lord, how happy I am. Would that I could remain here always, if but as the humblest of your workers, so that I could always hear your words and obey you.

"How happy I am when I interrogate you! How happy when you answer me. My whole being is moved with pleasure; my soul is filled; my feet no longer stumble; I thrill with delight.

"Your wisdom and goodness," she continued, "are beyond all measure. They are excellence itself. Under your influence I am placing new values on life. I see light in the darkness; the firefly in the garden reveals itself in newer beauty. I discover added lustre in the pearl; a greater radiance in the morning star, and a softer harmony in the moonlight. Blessed be the God that brought me here; blessed be He who permitted your majestic mind to be revealed to me; blessed be the One who brought me into your house to hear your voice.

Solomon had a harem of over 700 wives and concubines, yet, he was enamored by the young Black virgin from Ethiopia. Although he held elaborate banquets in her honor and wined, dined and otherwise entertained her during the length of her visit, they both knew that, according to Ethiopian tradition, the Queen must remain chaste. Nevertheless, the Jewish monarch wished to plant his seed in Makeda, so that he might have a son from her regal African lineage. To this end the shrewd king conspired to conquer the affection of this young queen with whom he had fallen in love. When, after six months in Israel, Queen Makeda announced to King Solomon that she was ready to return to Ethiopia, he invited her to a magnificent farewell dinner at his palace. The meal lasted for several hours and featured hot, spicy foods that were certain to make all who ate thirsty and sleepy (as King Solomon had planned.) Since the meal ended very late, the king invited Queen Makeda to stay overnight in the palace in his quarters. She agreed as long as they would sleep in separate beds and the king would not seek to take advantage of her. He vowed to honor her chastity, but also requested that she not take anything in the palace. Outraged by such a suggestion, the Queen protested that she was not a thief and then promised as requested. Not long after the encounter, the Queen, dying of thirst, searched the palace for water. Once she found a large water jar and proceeded to drink, the King startled her by stating: "You have broken your oath that you would not take anything by force that is in my palace. The Queen protested, of course, that surely the promise did not cover something so insignificant and plentiful as water, but Solomon argued that there was nothing in the world more valuable than water, for without it nothing could live. Makeda reluctantly admitted the truth of this and apologized for her mistake, begging for water for her parched throat. Solomon, now released from his promise, assuaged her thirst and his own, immediately taking the Queen as his lover."6 The following day as the Queen and her entourage prepared to leave Israel, the King placed a ring on her hand and stated, "If you have a son, give this to him and send him to me." After returning to the land of Sheba, Queen Makeda did indeed have a son, whom she named Son-of-the-wise-man, and reared as a prince and her heir apparent to the throne. Upon reaching adulthood, the young man wished to visit his father, so the Queen prepared another entourage, this time headed by Tamrin. She sent a message to Solomon to anoint their son as king of Ethiopia and to mandate that thenceforth only the males descended from their son should rule Sheba. Solomon and the Jewish people rejoiced when his son arrived in Israel. The king anointed him as the Queen had requested and renamed him Menelik, meaning "how handsome he is." Though Solomon had many wives, only one had produced a son, Rehoboam, a boy of seven. So the king begged Menelik to remain, but the young prince would not. Solomon therefore called his leaders and nobles and announced that, since he was sending his first born son back to Ethiopia, he wanted all of them to send their firstborn sons "to be his counselors and officers." And they agreed to do so. Menelik asked his father for a relic of the Ark of the Covenant to take back with him to the land of Sheba. It is said that while Solomon intended to provide his son with a relic, the sons of the counselors, angry at having to leave their homes and go to Sheba with Menelik, actually stole the real Ark and took it to Ethiopia. Menelik returned to Sheba and, according to tradition, ruled wisely and well. And his famous line has continued down to the 20th century when, even now, the ruler of Ethiopia is the "conquering lion of Judah" descended directly from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.


Written by Legrand H. Clegg II

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The OP was referring to black Africans, and the ancient Egyptians were not black.

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Nice analysis. Here's another.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114928/board/thread/97027983?d=97027983&p=1#97027983

The discussion on that thread is that a whole other alternative history exists in the movie's universe.

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