Sex Scene
In the sex scene in what order was Camille undressed?
1) shirt,shoes,pants
2) shirt,pants
If anyone knows please respond.
shirt then pants
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why you ask?
Camille giving into temptation like that was sicking. And she called herself a Christian.
Jesus Saves, look to him for help look to him for a helping hand.
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I seriously think that maybe Church Girl has got a bit of Camille in her. What do you think?
shareI guess she is waiting for her Petra.
shareSorry to rain on the typical IMDB conservative viewpoint bashing, but giving into temptation by its very definition is sickening. And even that aside, the comment is not in itself a condemnation on homosexuality at all. To shed your supposedly strongly held beliefs over simple lust is simply the sign of a weak will, irregardless what those beliefs are, and to be disgusted at that sort of behavior has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality except that in this instance that is simply the vice being given in to.
shareJust check her other posts and you'll find her an unpleasant religious zealot. I don't think lust was the issue here. People in love have sex with each other, gay and straight.
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This church girl is hilarious
shareThere is nothing wrong with wanting some one and acting on that attraction, except if you are attached.
And as for the homophobic view point, why the hell are you watching a movie about lady attraction then fool. If you are so disgusted as you say, then why are you so drawn to watching that subject matter. I find its the people who watch these type of movies are having those kinds of temptations them selves. Religion is about understanding, wisdom and compassion for others, clearly prejudice people lack all of these qualities.
Church girl, dont be so quick to judge something you seems to be in search of your self. Maybe its your self that you are really angry at.
"I have a head for business and a bod for Sin.."
"I'm not bad I'm just drawn that way!"
What good is temptation unless you give in sometimes.
Sorry to rain on your parade faust (freudian slip?), but sex is a normal and healthy human activity. I know your religion despises it (virgin birth, please),but homosexuality(i.e. lesbians) is not a vice. Two hot lesbians going at it is the most perfect thing in the world!!
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i say that anyone who likes lesbian stuff should go to movie boards about it, and those who are christian should go to boards about christian or "pure" movies so to speak....things where you dont just piss other people off. and tell me, do you believe in the theory of evolution? i do.
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Church girl why the hell watch these films if thats how you feel? And your reason for watching Boys don't cry - "was a good film for showing the effects of sinning" - is sickening. You probably use the excuse of being a christian watching these films to see if any 'sins' are being committed, when really you just like the lesbian content.
"why don't you have pudding after breakfast?"
Seriously, people, let's just love this movie (I know I do) and ignore religious zealots (I know I do).
Jesus said: straight or gay, doesn't matter. Just LOVE!
It's good though to discuss different viewpoints though, I think, as long as people are respectful of each other, even if they disagree.
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"daniel4242, shut up! you have no right to criticise other peoples religion. you are a racist git. "
umm...word you're looking for would be "discriminating" not "racist", unless you believe religion is bound to race, which would be discriminating and racist in itself.
Either way, I see no problem with the theme of the movie. Maybe because I'm Dutch and gay love and marriage is openly accepted here in Holland but still, love is love, no matter what your orientation is.
I respect those that take on a religion, may it be christian, muslim, jewish and such, but I also believe that even though you are religious, you should also respect the views of others. As a christian you may find the content of the movie offensive, but please respect the thoughts of those that don't find it offensive.
I dont care about homosexuality, it dosnt concern me as no one in my family or circle of friends is gay! i dont agree with it, but i also dont agree with people who worship budda or support man united but it dosnt mean i would discriminate against them! to emileklos religion CAN be a race such as irish catholics and jewish, im not sure about jews but im irish catholic and even if i denounce my religion i am still irish catholic because thats what my ancestors were. either way there was no need to get into semantics, and the problem was not me not respecting your/there/his beleifs it was daniel4242 not respecting mine!
shareNo disrespect meant at all, TheWalrusLives...but it would be a very rare individual who had no gay or lesbian people in their family or circle of friends. If you know a couple dozen people or more, you most likely know someone who is gay - whether they make it known or not. Just a thought.
shareIf you are American, you probably know that the parties are already holding debates for their potential nominee. At the recent Republican debate, all of the candidates were against allowing gays in the military--IOW the opportunity to help "defend" the country. As Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show" pointed out, mathematically speaking one of the Republican candidates must be gay. How ironic!....
"I don't need the defense anymore.....I embrace."---Dame Marjorie Chardin
Sorry, from your original post i thaught you were having a pop at me, re-reading it i see that you weren't but your comment "it would be a very rare individual who had no gay or lesbian people in their family or circle of friends. If you know a couple dozen people or more, you most likely know someone who is gay" im not sure i agree with. I live in a large town in the south west of Ireland and really i only know of one gay person in the whole town (yes, yes the only gay in the village, very funny! actually if your american you probably wont get that joke) Its just not that common over here, maybey your right and they just dont "make it known" but none of the dozen or so guys i hang around with are gay, none of my girlfriends friends are gay, none of my friends girlfriends friends are gay and definatley no one in my family is gay (and i can prove that because everyone in my rather large extended family over the age of 21 is married and most over the age of 15 have girlfriends.) Where are you from by the way ,i dont mean anything too specific or its just it intrests me that different places with different social scenes have radically different percentages of gay people, it brings up the question of "why are people gay?" psychological, genetics, natural etc. Certainally where i live there is a very low gay population, and i really just dont see anyone in my family being gay, i know in my heart of hearts my kids wont be gay either, i know it sounds odd but i just wont raise them that way! my mums best mate from when she was a kid married a scottish bloke and they live in glasgow, we used to go on holiday there and stay with them, when i was about 7 we went over there and i met her son, he was a normal kid, we went over again when i was 12/13 and the father had started drinking loads and his parents had broke up and got back together a few times so he was understandably a little shy etc. the last time i went over i was 16 my later told me that the father was beating the mother alot around this time and the kid was right weird like. Anyway that kid is gay now, and the guy in my town thats openly gay had a stressful childhood, so i rekon its a psychological thing, i dont think your born gay its just people looking for a strong male influence in there life, someone they can rely upon (same applies to lesbians and strong female persons in their lives). Now im not a psychologist or anything so i might be talking complete bollocks but i look forward to hearing your response none the less! i hope i didnt offend anyone, i dont think homosexuality is "right" for lack of a better term but i also dont think jewish peoples beleifs are right but it dosnt mean i wouldnt have them round for tea, unless your beleifs are hurting other people (nazism, religions/societies that opress women) or are just plain retarded(those smelly gothic satanists that hang round our pool hall) your alright by me!
sharejust realised that ndatmo-1 wasnt the same chap that wrote the original comment it was emileklos so in my last comment ignore "Sorry, from your original post i thaught you were having a pop at me, re-reading it i see that you weren't" except for you emileklos because i dont think you were trying to insult me however it did rub me up the wrong way.
Also Jamo57 i saw that thing on The Daily Show, man that was weird, i thaught America was suppose to be "the land of the free", i think your going to need a new slogan. How about "the land of the free white male hetrosexual christians, who are law biding fundamentalist capitalists that preach abstinence." Thats a joke by the way i got nothing against americans, but for a democracy your politicans dont seem to represent the peoples views, i mean the american views that you seem to give us europeans through your media is that you belive in gay marriage and equality, you beleive the war on iraq was a mistake, you think global warming is a real concerns yet the politicans you vote in say the exact opposite, can someone explain this to me! I know this is really off the topic, sorry!
didnt no lesbians could have "sex"
shareI live in London and I have a few gay friends, all with the typical nuclear family structure...no 'emotional baggage', abuse etc. I probably have the most strangest (yet wonderful) upbringing with no father, a loving mother and a dedicated nanny and I'm straight. The kinds of upbringngs you are suggesting could 'turn' a person gay have all been affected by people who I know to be straight My gay friends come from different places ranging from little villages to big cities so I don't understand how it seems that you're associating the occurence (for want of a better word) of homosexuality with something like child abuse. I know you are not intending to insult but your comments seem a little ignorant. I know that everyone's perceptions of life is based on experience but I think that your horizons need to be widened.
shareYour post made me laugh.
I grew up in a very small town (less than 500 people) so I know that small towns are not the most friendly places to be gay, queer ( whatever label you like to use). The truth is, you never EVER really know anyone.
You may think you do, but you don't.
And seen as you say you don't know any gay folk, then I reckon you should steer clear of making assumptions about what makes people 'that' way. Because the world is a big diverse place, with few simple answers. The more you travel, the more life experience you get, the more you learn just how colourful the world is.
I also find it amusing you think Jews beliefs are not 'right'. What beliefs exactly? Your religion is more or less a spin off cult from Judaism. Jesus was a Jew. The Catholic moral standard is derived from Jewish law, pretty much.
You owe a lot that religion, and to that people... Because without it, you would still be splashing around in the Pagan pool.
i already explained, im catholic by birth, im do not however follow that religion. and if i was catholic then what i would not believe to be right about the jewish religion is that they do not believe jesus was the messiah. thats a pretty big thing with catholics as far as i can remember. i never made an assumtion i merley put forward a theory which i have every right to do. and i have traveled quite a bit.
share"and even if i denounce my religion i am still irish catholic because thats what my ancestors were. either way there was no need to get into semantics, and the problem was not me not respecting your/there/his beleifs it was daniel4242 not respecting mine!"
LOL...checking my old posts and came upon this reply. Just because your ancestors were Irish Catholic, that does NOT "make" you Irish Catholic. You have a brain and a choice. I'm of Irish blood and my ancestors were probably Catholic...but then I discovered these things called books. I'm not catholic anymore.
you've completley misunderstood what i've said. in ireland we use the the term irish catholic to distinguish what your, for lack of a better word, race is. Irish catholic is who i am genetically. its like if a jew wasn't actually apart of the jewish faith you would still call him a jew because that's his race or tribe or whatever you want to call it. irish protestants and irish catholics are different genectically, different culturally, different historicaly. so even if you have lost your faith you still use catholicism as an identifier. it has nothing to do with reading books.
sharedaniel4242, shut up! you have no right to criticise other peoples religion. you are a racist git.
Ummm...actually religion is not a race, it's a choice. Like smoking crack or any other decision that kills brain cells.
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lol...well said. :D
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I agree with you, darkmage7280. It's amazing to me how some people talk about how Jesus is loving and everything, but then they go and say hateful things like that about people. It makes no sense to me.
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Jesus doesn't exist, you stupid twat.
shareJesus didn't exist
shareWonderful scene, the one with Camille and Petra. Beautiful and touching. I also find it strangely ironic that Camille speaks to Petra of lust and humans being more than animals at one point, when their lovemaking was so much more tender and caring than her sex with Martin which(although a very good scene in its own right) seemed crude in comparison:) ...hm, that ended up as a weird sentence, but I'm too lazy to change it^^
shareBeautiful scene, and a wonderful film! It was recommended by a poster on another board. Films like this one can require a bit of research to locate - but it is always nice to be pleasantly surprised.
Maximus: Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
i haven't yet watched this film i'm about to and just wondered whether the sex scene was going to be like the crappy lesbian scenes you get in porn. it's taken me so long to get any idea on this because where everyone has taken the conversation, i'm not complaining because i found it quite interesting.
as a lesbian myself i find myself thinking how naive some people still are to this whole gay thing. there is no proof that someone else is straight, ever. nobody can even prove they themselves are straight, there is no proof of anything that is entirely physcological, anyone can sleep with men or women it's whats in the head that determines sexuality.
i was in denial of my sexuality for years and constantly had a boyfriend, now yes i was sleeping with a man but that didn't make me straight i hated every second of it but felt i needed to tell myself i was enjoying it because i didn't want to be gay. i fought it for a long time until a close friend of mine actually made me realize that i'm no less of a person for being gay and after a long time thinking i just came out and it was one of the best things i've ever done. it made me feel so much better about myself, to know that i wasn't ashamed of who i was, now i'm not the kind of person that goes around covered in rainbow jewellery but i do believe in being proud of yourself.
as for what makes someone gay, no matter what religion or upbringing you come from you can still be gay you might never tell anybody, especially in some religious backgrounds as you may be condemned to hell as we so often are. but i think almost everybody knows quite a few people that are gay quite often without knowing it, maybe they will never know it themselves. the thing is people don't ask why are people straight? some people may be straight thanks to relgions, family background, upbringing, it's the normal/natural thing would be most peoples answer but i hope for most people they just are. it worries me that people may hide their true identities forever because they know who they are is not part of the norm. it doesnt help my point that i could be included in your theory as i had a runaway mother and turned out a lesbian, lack of female role model perhaps? who knows, to be honest i dont care the reasons i'm gay or other people are gay i'm just happy to be given a chance, by most people, to live a normal, respectable life.
as for giving into temptation, which as i recall started this argument type thing, people are only tempted by good things its establishing whether the consequences of giving in to temptation will be good or bad and quite often they could be good. i could be tempted to run a marathon for charity and give in to that temptation, now surely that would be a good thing. giving into temptation can be good and if its a lesbian sleeping with a woman she loves then whats wrong with that?
i hope i havent come across like a rambling idiot. i hope i havent offended anyone but most of all i hope that whoever reads this will maybe think about what i've said at least for a second.
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Interesting observation. Great post, Fastwinstondoom .
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