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This is the most disturbing film ever, FACT!


I have seen every disturbing film that you can imagine... and I have seen all sorts of real rape and murder videos on the web

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for some reason this is the most disturbing thing that I have ever seen. I mean this seriously. There is just something so disturbing about it although I can't really say why.
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Go watch David Lynch.

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Haha! good call- Majic-Man

While I agree this film may strike a cord with some people, calling it the most disturbing film EVER is just laughable

Do guys like "the thing"?
They like it better than no thing.

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You obviously haven't seen a film called "Gummo",which glorifies killing cats,and sex with retards,and other disturbing topics.

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These responses made me laugh.

Coincidentally,

David Lynch is my hero... I have all of his films on DVD etc and Mulholland Drive is my favourite film of all time. (I saw it in an art house cinema and everybody people stood up and clapped at the end of it, which is pretty unusual behaviour for English people.)

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no joke,

I absolutely love Gummo! I think that I may be the only one on the planet who actually likes the film. The scene in the basement when the kid is lifting weights to Madonna's 'Like A Prayer' is probably the most incredible scene in movie history.

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"I saw it in an art house cinema and everybody people stood up and clapped at the end of it, which is pretty unusual behaviour for English people"

Standing up and clapping after a film is NOT "unusual behaviour for English people."

I am from Australia and whenever I see a film (usually at an independent cinema) it is common practice for audience members to stand up and applause if one believes a movie is worthy of such recognition.

By the way, a real David Lynch fan would recognize the flaws in Mulholland Drive as a pose to his other artistic achievements in cinema from Eraserhead, to Lost Highway and Wild at Heart!!!

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NO you are not the only person on the planet who liked Gummo (you must live in a bubble if you actually thought you were)


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yeah... what a jerk...

If you are Anti-American: Admit you are doing it just to be cool. Does it feel good to hate?

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Calm the *beep* down and take the stick out of your ass if possible.

I love the Internet.

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at least now you are more educated about the world

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**If ur gonna protect a country, stick to it, dont move on to a whole different one, it looks retarded, n its more insulting to not even know that theyre not even on the same continent.

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By the way, a real David Lynch fan would recognize the flaws in Mulholland Drive as a pose to his other artistic achievements in cinema from Eraserhead, to Lost Highway and Wild at Heart!!!

That's a pretty bizarre statement. Mulholland Drive is widely regarded as his best film, while Lost Highway and especially Wild at Heart are usually regarded as his weaker efforts.

Oh, and I think you mean "opposed", rather than "a pose".

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Greenberg (2010, Baumbach) - 8.5/10

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Mulholland Drive, while amazing, was supposed to be a TV show and kind of got slapped together into film length at the last minute, and it shows.

Lost Highway... weaker? Than... no.

Surely you jest.

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There is absolutley nothing disturbring about Gummo.The only thing that Gummo is, is awesome and beautiful!

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when you say glorify...you mean shows...right? because slaughtering a cat didnt seem all too glamorous or appealing, actually nothing looked glamorous or appealing in that movie.

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I agree. Nothing was gloryfied in this movie. I will never forget gummo. The most strange film of all time. I did enjoy it. But not in the same way that I have ever enjoyed anything else. lol

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Gummo sucks, that movie is just plain weird, disturbing and it's hard to tell who the real actors are.

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Who cares. If this person says it it disturbing, giving an example of something worst does not make it better. That just does not make any sense.

Think about it.

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Gummo doesnt glorify anything, it simply is made to show lives of certain people, it wasnt made to send messages saying killing cats is a good way to spend your afternoon. Like I said, those are the ways Harmony Korine wanted to show the inhabitants of Xenia. By the way, if you think watching Gummo is a good way to "shock" your friends, go watch something else.

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I was trying to think of a quick quip to sum up "Gummo" - something along the lines of, "If this is disturbing to you, you should see how REAL people behave." Then I saw this: "The most disquieting thing about "Gummo" is the fact that real neighborhoods and people like those in this movie DO exist and will ALWAYS exist." I couldn't have said it better. Sometimes truth and reality are more disturbing than anything any filmmaker/screenwriter could come up with.

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I've seen Gummo, its pretty disturbing especially when the kid with the odd shaped head is in the bathtub eating spagetti. This movie disturbs me more though, it hits a little closer to home, its much more realistic in my opinion then gummo is.

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Oh my gosh! That's what I was gonna say. Gummo is one of the few films that I seriously am unable to watch.

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Truly. Gummo haunted me for WEEKS after seeing it. This was child's play in comparison.

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Have you ever seen "Happiness"? That's pretty disturbing.

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I have seen Happiness, I really liked it but it didn't disturb me as much as this film.

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how about the french flicks "Baise-Moi" or "À ma soeur!". "Dollhouse" doesn`t even come close!

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Yep, seen both. To be honest neither really disturbed me. I liked A ma soeur but I thought Baise-Moi was rubbish. The porno star acting was terrible. I have also seen Anatomy of Hell.

And for the record, I saw the uncut version of Baise-Moi.

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meh, I still don`t see why you think it`s so disturbing...i just think it was a more realistic (though not entirely realistic) view of a 13 year olds life than you usually see on the big screen.

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are you serious ? this movie is funny, dark, and smart. nothing disturbing about this film-
great music too might i mention.

go watch ichi the killer if you really want to be disturbed.

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Atmosphere is what makes a movie disturbing. For some reason, Solondz's movies just make me feel queasy. There's something both painfully realistic and absurdist about his style. God, I laughed at movies like The Exorcist and Lynch, while I love him, doesn't disturb me at all. Solondz, however...just gets under my skin. Nothing to do with how "hardcore" the material is. All about the atmosphere.

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Thats what makes it so great, the reality and the honesty that is shown. His films mirror real life(not completely). I love his style, the dark humour and the grittiness. He doesn't intend to make the audience feel good when they are watching it, they are not feel-good films.

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I have seen both versions of 'Ichi the Killer', the cartoon and the normal version (both uncut). Other than the breast ripping scene and the hook scene, it was pretty tame.

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Hmmm, found Palindromes and Happiness to be more disturbing than Welcome to the Dollhouse, though I loved the hell out of all three of them.

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Truth be told, he found this movie so disturbing because it resembles his real life too much, something which he isn't quite able to come to terms with just yet. :)

People with some 'darkness' in their heart can endure any kinds of movies normal people would find "disturbing" (depending on how 'dark' their heart has become). Let it be from extreme violence, gore, horror/scary stuff, to weird fetishes that would get normal people's stomach churning. They can take it all. What they can't take, though, is a portrayal of their own life.

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I guess I can see your point. Watching a 13 year-old boy telling some girl he's gonna rape her, and knowing that, yes, this kind of stuff does happen and it's not all that rare . . . I concede the point. But I still thought "Happiness" was more disturbing. Or the part in "The Cell" where the dad burned his son with an iron.

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A ma soeur(Fat Girl) wasn't disturbing! It was hi-larious!

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It seemed to try far too hard to disturb me. When I sense a director trying to manipulate me, I resist with every sinew.
It worked. I watched the film and that was that.

If a body likes disturbing, you could do worse than watching Man Bites Dog.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0103905/

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I liked Happiness quite a lot. The thing about Happiness was the sadness of it, the sadness and loneliness expressed through the characters. Solondz is a very interesting filmmaker alright. And rather bold. I don't know about the "most EVER" stuff, though. People have a lot of fun saying that, it's sort of the big Internet joke, to say that whatever we just saw or read or did is the most EVER of whatever that is. The funny part is that cremasterfan has a website which is called "exaggeration" so we might take him/her with a grain of salt as I think he/she expects us to.

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i would have to agree but mostly because i watched it when i was twelve and the box said it was hilarious .....i'm still not sure what the funny bit was????

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It's like a lamb slaughter. Tragic-y, but strangely funny once you hear that lamb bleat.

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I would say as far as rape scenes go, Irreversible (A french film), and I Spit On Your Grave top anything I've ever seen.

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Spit on your grave is definately another one. Especially since the rape scenes seem to last forever. I've been meaning to see irreversible i've heard over and over that is a great flick.

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i tried looking for "I spit on your grave"
couldn't find it....?
is it called "Day of the woman" maybe?

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This wasn't disturbing so much as it was mean spirited. Everyone hated each other and treated each other as brutally as possible. Would a 7th grader really try to rape an ugly girl?! Happiness was sicker, but at least it had realism. That sh*t could happen in your town, and that what makes it all the worse (especially the psychiatrist-child molester). Dollhouse just made me ill. (before saying I'm a pussy, I have seen Irreversible, Salo, Baise-Moi, Cannibal Holocaust, etc. and not even batted an eyelash. There's something about children abusing each other that doesn't sit well with me.)

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I agree totally.

Todd Solondz is a freak. He is sick and his movie Palindromes was also glorifing young girls have sex with young boys and adult men. I would not be surprised if one day if is found on charges of some sort.

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Disturbing no doubt because everyone has felt like an outcast at some point and can relate the main character. The film is so well directed that you are forced to live in her world for a period of time and feel the pain of a junior high school girls with no hope of being accepted by anyone. Her mother, her teacher, her siblings, the bulleys at school...all downright ruthless. And what drives it home is that it feels so real. And things get progressively worse as the film goes on. Ultimately there is no sign of relief in site. You can just feel the misery. Unlike stories about Hell, cats getting killed, or other unsettling images, this type of film feels really real despite how exaggerated the characters are. You feel like it's really happening and there is no way out. At the same time, the realism gives it humor, because we've all known people like the characters in this film. They're so real it's disturbing and yet we can not help but watch and laugh at them as we see their lives unfold.

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Disturbing no doubt because everyone has felt like an outcast at some point and can relate the main character. The film is so well directed that you are forced to live in her world for a period of time and feel the pain of a junior high school girls with no hope of being accepted by anyone. Her mother, her teacher, her siblings, the bulleys at school...all downright ruthless. And what drives it home is that it feels so real. And things get progressively worse as the film goes on. Ultimately there is no sign of relief in site. You can just feel the misery. Unlike stories about Hell, cats getting killed, or other unsettling images, this type of film feels really real despite how exaggerated the characters are. You feel like it's really happening and there is no way out. At the same time, the realism gives it humor, because we've all known people like the characters in this film. They're so real it's disturbing and yet we can not help but watch and laugh at them as we see their lives unfold.

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This was a rather disturbing flick. I think (in my opinion) that it was more frustrating then it was disturbing, though. I hated Dawn's parents, I hated her siblings, I hated the other kids at school (except for maybe 2 kids) and I hated how she was treated through the whole movie. But, it is because of this that makes it such a great movie. It gets the emotions going and it does exactly what it wants to do to you, make you mad. So I can see why you would say this is a very disturbing film. For me, though, the movies that disturb me are "Devil's Experiment", "8mm", "Naked Lunch", stuff like that.

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Gummo amnd Happiness are two movies that I alwayz watch back to back. You gotta love that sh it!

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I, as well, identified so much w/ Dawn. It's *beep* scary...

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