50 things we learned in this movie - Under Siege 2: Dark Territory (1995) Discussion

[–] drewganov 16 years ago

11. When you think this is being shot...this ain't being shot.

"Grab the handle push the buttonnngghhhh."
"Let go of your own throat, Hank."

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[–] ColeThorn10 16 years ago

12. Chance favors the prepared mind.

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[–] coolk1970 16 years ago

13. When it comes to techno stuff, the Admiral is clueless

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[–] athomas1 16 years ago

14. Black chicks as bad guys rule!!!

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[–] Dachunde 16 years ago

15. Casey Ryback is on this train!!?!!

16. Nobody beats Ryback in the kitchen.

17. An obviously well-trained merc with martial art skills will allow herself to be aikido gripped and flipped out of a helicoptor by a cocky porter with no training.

18. The only thing he's got in his pocket is YO ASS!

19. If you're a young man, don't make Ryback raise his voice

20. Tom Braker doesn't learn lessons very well

21. Pepperspray - Good for the sinuses

22. If you didn't see the body your leather jacket wearing mercernary leader will bitch slap you

23. Porters & train chefs are ALWAYS willing to learn cake recipes from whispering black garbed strangers.

Help Wanted: Telepath - You know where

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[–] adam-martin8023 16 years ago

24. Apple Newtons make a good ally.

25. Ryback was just taking a stroll on the roof of the train.

26. An ex-Navy Seal and a porter can take on a group of mercenaries easily.
(good bloody fun movie)

Bad Carpenter flicks are a treat compared with the current spate of PG-13 horror freakhouse

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[–] Dick_Douchestein 16 years ago

27. train horns make for good cover when dodging machine gun fire

28. every door on a train is bulletproof (especially if they have glass in them)

29. crisco and liquor make for a good bomb when mixed

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[–] MsGt_G_GoRdOn 16 years ago

30. Military outposts containing Huey Helicopters can be accessed with the snip of some bolt cutters. No guards at the gate.

31. A CD containing highly sensitive information can be put in the front pocket of your hoodie while you roll around and then drop it on some rocks and still work.

32. Casey Ryback’s suit will never get ruined, ever!

33. Casey Ryback wears the strongest hair gel known to man.

34. The wheels on the door of a Huey are so sharp they will cut 8 fingers right off.

35. The big, bad guy with the leather jacket stares to long at people he interrupted having sex.

36. No matter what, EVERY Seagal movie MUST contain an unnecessary knife fight.

37. Ryback has the most unorthidox way of holding a knife.

38. Ryback will only use a Colt 45.

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[–] dangerj32 16 years ago

39. You better give him that *beep* CD, or he'll pop a cap in your sorry black ass bitch.

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[–] dangerj32 16 years ago

40. In Ryback's universe, 18 million people live in D.C.

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[–] dangerj32 16 years ago

41. Chicks with tits to die for still need to put on makeup even though they are in a hostage crisis.

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[–] TheatreGeek13 14 years ago

actually, they said 8 million people.

I'm not saying, I'm just sayin'...

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[–] Rock_Sores 13 years ago

47. You can be smart enough to build a laser satellite and make a CD with an advanced targeting system for it but not smart enough to burn backup copies of it.

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John: I call shotgun.
Cameron: I call 9 mm.

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[–] Dachunde 16 years ago

35. The big, bad guy with the leather jacket stares to long at people he interrupted having sex.

That is genius. When I saw that I did think he was working out what positions they had tried...perv.

Oh God. Did you eat all this acid?
That's right! M U S I C!!

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[–] ThunderInParadise 16 years ago

42. That highly trained mercenaries think the best Navy SEAL instructors come from Ft. Bragg, which is an Army Green Beret training base.

43. That Ryback has medals so secret, he can never show them to anyone.

44. That the "son of a bitch" took out seven men.

45. With 2ft. of ground clearance, Ryback can fall full speed, and still grab a hold of the undercarriage of the train without getting scratched.

46. Highly trained Navy SEALS can always hot-wire a truck in seconds, nevermind the ignition wires were already pulled out, cut, and the rubber tubing scraped away. Also, it was unlocked for some reason.

47. That ATAC has strict rules about their officers getting involved with each other.

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[–] jeff_stell 15 years ago

48. It's called an orgasm

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[–] Strazdamonas 15 years ago

49. AIrbase security code is "8 9"

50. you have to crawl over the hangar whne your mates drive around it to make silent attack.

And lets make another 50!

1. you can duck into a meat locker and close the door faster than bullets entering your car.

2. best line ever is "put something on".

3. he is trained for this!

4.it is strange that a teenager does not drink alcohol.

5. One can get inside a same cabin the other comes out and not meet.

6. if passengers are in the end of the train it is wise to go to front jsut to get to radio which you dont need since you arleady are sending a fax through your super cellphone.

7. There is atomic reactor under pentagon that will wipe all washington.

8. If you hit atomic reactor you will get free fallout (the game).

9. To demonstrate your power to buyers from Asia you hit Asia.

10. people usually carry 3 mashineguns so they wouldnt have to reload.

11. you can jump onto full speed train.

12. porter is badass.

13. First person steven is faxing is his cook friend.

14. you can make a earthquake in mid air.

15. you can switch train tracks from isnde the train.

16. maniacs has two track minds.

17. you publicly tell everyone you got 1 trillion dollars to a crew you are willing to pay only one million dollars.

18. Asian buyers suddenly become german buyers if you have difficulties with passengers.

19. porter is a quick learner.

20. you get avenged if you shoot poor teddy.

21. if you are the last badguy,, train doors become automatic.

22. if you cant hit somone with a knife, meatcleaver will do the job.

23. when you get on helicopter you can call pentagon.

"If you have a gun, you don't need to work out"

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[–] CynicalVision 15 years ago

24. A sniper with a clear shot will never go for a headshot.

25. Always have a fault line seismic simluation on a screen ready to run just incase you need to show someone.

26. $1 Billion is just not enough, but $1 Billion 100 million is okay.

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[–] johntaylorinblood 15 years ago

"11. When you think this is being shot...this ain't being shot. "
LMAO!!

27. It wasn't Kappa.
28. Knocked up is to old for teddy bears.
29. Baggage has been checked.

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[–] planetmutty 15 years ago

30. Assumption is the mother of all fvck-ups.
31. Sane people don't build weapons like Grazer-1.

When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now!

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[–] coys77 15 years ago

32. If you have a spare $100,000,000 you can order your ex wife be killed, along with many other people at the same time!

33. You get to wear the train driver’s hat when you shoot him.

34. If you stick your finger nail in the face of a big man it has him over come for a few seconds. And he enjoys it.

35. Only large breasted women sun bath on the beach.

36. The Generals skip from one film to the next with out changing their outfits, but finding themselves having to get the country out of trouble with the help of the main man of that film!

37. Just to show off, stand still for a few seconds so the fancy green light highlights your body as you walk through the invisible door.

38. The geek is not geeky enough to think of the machine that he is clearly holding and promoting to the hero, that a bullet shot at it that didn’t go through it and into the geek will save the day.

39. The it's fallen down there trick works every time.

40. When you leave Washington, don't tell any one. But do tell your kid your dad is a CAMP mickey rooke look-a-like!

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[–] AegriSomniac 15 years ago

41. A gigabyte of RAM should do the trick.

42. This isn't a produce list, this is... Oh my God.

43. Casey has to go *beep* somebody.

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[–] Silent8 14 years ago

44. when you take a terrorist's targeting CD, don't destroy it, leave it in your jacket pocket where it can be easily dropped.

45. When 2 trains collide while you're still inside, just run in slow motion and you'll get away.

46. Rule #1 of Ryback's Tactics: Don't be a hero.

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[–] thoso 13 years ago

47. when Ryback fires a hail of bullets upwards inside a tunnel, the ricochetting bullets will only hit the bad guy, not Ryback himself.

48. space is called 'space' because there's so much of it.

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[–] D_Murph 13 years ago

49. Random parked trucks are always unlocked and the 2 wires you need to cross to start them are right there in plain view on top of the engine bay.

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[–] ThingyBlahBlah3 13 years ago

50. When you have to type two passwords simultaneously for some reason, typing in both of them yourself (one with each hand) looks impressive, and nobody will ask why you didn't just tell someone else what the second password was and have them type it in.

Another 50:

1. Navy SEAL training includes mind-reading. This is how Ryback knew exactly what Dane was up to (right down to the importance of the targeting disc), even though he wasn't in Dane's control room long enough to see or hear anything useful, didn't hear Dane's conversations with the Pentagon guys, and couldn't hear Dane talking to his backers on the phone.

2. When you're planning the crime of the century and your plan depends on staying in motion to avoid detection, hijacking a train full of passengers is much more low-key than renting an 18-wheeler and setting up shop in the trailer. And for good measure, make sure you tell the Pentagon what you're doing, even though your plan doesn't require them to know.

3. When you're holding a train full of hostages, you should never even threaten to harm them, even if it might stop the highly-trained anti-terrorism expert who's plowing though your henchmen with a minimum of fuss.

4. Spending 15 minutes a day keeping up your immunity to pepper spray is more important than keeping your knife-fighting skills sharp.

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'It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?'
'If it ain't, it'll do till the mess gets here.'

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[–] DarkDungeons 13 years ago

5. That having a bad ID means you'll be drinking Tonic & Lime.

6. If you touch me one mo' time it'll be your azz!

7. Any train will have compartments big enough to hide a milky-eyed dead mercenary.

8. When you're a chef, you don't have to hit the floor when weapons are being fired at you.

9. If you don't shut that bi**h up, I will!

10. When you're playing dead it's very restful...no phone calls.

R.I.P. Creasy Silo, eminent theatre critic

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[–] golden-24 13 years ago

13. Bringing a passenger train to a stop, then backing it up, stopping it and moving it forward again takes about the same amount of time as it would for a car.

14. If you ever get thrown off a train and want to get back on it, find the nearest unlocked pickup truck with its ignition wires already cut so you can hot-wire it really quickly; drive really fast on mountainside back roads that run parallel to the tracks until you catch up to the train; jump out of the truck at full speed just seconds before it hits a feature of the landscape that will send it flying over the train and into a lake; then jump onto the top of one of the train cars from there.

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[–] ny_pitbull 13 years ago

15) that a navy seal can dispatch 30 mercenarys,but still run like a 12 year old girl covered in bees.

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[–] MurphAndTheMagicTones 11 years ago

16. It's hard to shock the world just by spreading ka-ka all over the place.

17. Some things we know. Some things the Chinese know that we know. But those same things we make believe we don't know about, and those same things the Chinese make-believe that they believe that we don't know. But know that we know.

18. Computers capable of controlling satellite weapons also make enough noise that mercenaries nearby have to cover their ears.

19. Make sure you ALWAYS see a body.

20. Porters with a lot of balls get the choice to see the bullet coming or get to turn around. Not really sure what porters who don't have a lot of balls get.

21. Can't hack a laptop about to blow up Washington? Just shoot the damn thing.

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"Does Barry Manilow know that you raid his wardrobe?"---John Bender, The Breakfast Club

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[–] markskelton2 10 years ago

22. Crew members let random passenger strangers in to the kitchen to cook and bake and show them how to do their job.

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[–] Jeneral28 10 years ago

Supposed guess for 22 is that Ryback is a famous chef.

23. You can bake a cake in a microwave.

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

"17. Some things we know. Some things the Chinese know that we know. But those same things we make believe we don't know about, and those same things the Chinese make-believe that they believe that we don't know. But know that we know.
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That's COMPLETELY wrong.

When you people quote movies, why don't you put a little effort to it, and do it RIGHT? I mean, the movie is right there. All you have to do is find the spot, listen to what's said, and then write it down. Like this:

"We know this. The Chinese know that we know. But we make believe that we don't know and the Chinese make believe that they BELIEVE that we don't know -- but know that we know. Everybody knows."

Or at least make it clear that you are paraphrasing (and doing so badly, I might add).

See how easy it is to get it right? My quote is correct. Your quote is completely incorrect. Why? Why didn't you take a few seconds to make sure it's correct? If you didn't think it was important, then why did you think it was important enough to even write it in a post?

GET IT RIGHT, IT'S EASY.

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[–] Jeneral28 10 years ago

An ordinary cook can call the Pentagon and talk to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

When an airplane explodes, its engines will remain perfectly stationary and functional for the duration of the explosion.

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

When a satellite-camera films a moving airplane, it can perfectly and without any wobble or shaking, track it, even when the airplane's speed (and composition) radically changes because of an explosion.

(Ever tried to film a fast-moving jetliner with lots of zoom? You'd be a genius if you can keep the camera AS PERFECTLY STILL and COMPLETELY CENTERED on the airplane as this movie showed us. Apparently satellites, that are moving fast themselves, are cameraman-geniuses)

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

When a highly trained man is thrown a bomb, his trained reaction includes:

1) Catching the thrown object
2) Holding it carefully
3) Looking down at it for an extended period of time
4) Reading whatever is written on it or its LCD screen

..instead of instantly throwing it back and shooting, or something more probable like that.

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

Whenever women are in a train captured by terrorists and held as hostages, they feel free to just take their time to casually put on make-up in the train's toilet without a care in the world, (presumably after they have relieved their bodily urges) until a terrorist pounds at the door and yells: "Hey lady! What's taking you so long?"

And of course terrorists always refer to their female hostages as 'ladies', because it would be politically incorrect to refer to them with any other word.

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

When they show Erika Eleniak's passable tits pretty freely and wildly in the first movie, in the sequel, a trained, hard-boiled terrorist is completely flabbergasted at the sight of a mere cleavage.

I guess the price of tits went up. Now mere cleavage is supposed to be something to die for?

I wouldn't call a mediocre cleavage 'tits to die for'. That would have been a better comment about Erika Eleniak's bare and naked breasts. But of course Seagal, for some reason, neglected to make such a comment about them in the first movie.

I guess that would have 'objectified' the woman too much. But now that he spoke about someone else's presumed observation, it's okay, right? What a politically-correct, depressing time 1995 already was.

I think that scene would have worked much better with actual tits, instead of the mere cleavage.

Though the whole 'let's use sex and sexual provocation in a movie' is such an old cliché, and not appropriate for an action movie in my opinion, that I'd rather there not even be such a scene. There is a time and place for sex and sexual stimulation, "everywhere and all the time" is not it. It may SEEM like it, if you are a horny teenager, but it's not it.

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[–] avortac 10 years ago

Big shot military generals that are responsible for the learning, teaching and arranging systematic mass-murders of large amounts of human beings, are tickled pink and overjoyed to the point of cheering out loud, when they hear that "the hostages are safe".

Yep, that's really realistic..

(I guess it could be explained by the fact that the 'reputation' is now safe, and that they don't have to give money to the grieving families or whatever, but it still seems to me very cartoony a scene, where they all cheer so much I would expect them to shed some tears of joy soon.. )

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[–] Jeneral28 9 years ago

US Navy SEALS train people at Fort Bragg

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[–] Moester 8 years ago

Admiral Bates was very happy and excited when Ryback told everyone the hostages were safe.
He seemed to do a fist pump dance with himself.

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[–] courtey8400 8 years ago

If you're in a locomotive that is under fire and other occupants are getting killed, your first priority is to radio in what is happening.