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Question (contains spoilers)


Maybe I wasn't paying attention but why did the Scientists send Cole back (to 1996) the third time when he completed his 2nd mission successfully and basically it was mission accomplished at that point as far as locating the details on the source of the virus? He didn't find out that he was supposed to kill (the girl?) until after he got to the airport and was given the gun.

Fantastic movie. I love complex movies that twist my mind and sometimes I have to watch multiple times to get it all.

Thank you

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By the way, I acknowledge they had wrong information after the 2nd mission was finished but they didn't know that until after Cole was sent back the third time and made the call from the airport.

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Cole convinced them that he was their man: "He really is the most experienced" and he knew all people involved, despite "all that behaviour!"

Anyway, so what was he to do on that mission? Probably to do what the scientist we see on the plane at the end, was going to do - collect a sample of the original virus.

However, Cole's mission, he had decided secretly, was to go back and "stay with" Kathryn - a bit of betrayal.

So after he pulled out his teeth and tried to run off with her (aiming for Key West) there was presumably a bunch of activity between the future scientists trying to track him down. I would have loved to have seen that scene, but we don't. It'd have been fun.

Anyway, then like a goof, Cole made his call from the airport "though I didn't have to" to warn them that the 12 Monkeys group "had nothing to do with it; it's somebody else".

So there, bingo, after they pieced together that message (in the future) they now knew where he was and what he was up to, and that started the events we see in the final scene:

- where they sent multiple time travellers to track him down
- Jose to give him the gun to kill "somebody" (not "the girl", but presumably the bad virus guy)
- and eventually to get "murdered by cop" to dispose of him.

Umm, I've seen the film 25 or more times so, yes, you may want to try another couple. A real gem, it is!

My old 12 Monkeys links page:
http://www.catconsulting.ca/tempesta-tormenta

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Great reply - thank you so much! I will check out your link. I'm very interested in what you will have there. I ramble on below, don't feel obligated to reply as I'm sure it has been discussed at length since the films release.

I think the only part of the film that didn't appeal to me (and I didn't quite catch this until the 2nd viewing when I had a better understanding of what was going on) is when Cole is at the hotel when the tables of belief are turned. Cole goes submissive believing he's crazy while a trained Doctor abruptly abandons her former self, accepts the truth and must convince him he is in fact a time traveler and 5 billion people are going to die. Fortunately that mood is brief and they quickly move on to something else which feels much better like love or lust and going in vacation. probably watch this great film 23 more times.

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He didn't find out that he was supposed to kill (the girl?) until after he got to the airport and was given the gun.

I've always believed that the future scientists knew exactly what happened to him on that particular day and set him up to killed by airport security. They knew that Cole was unstable and was prone to disobeying orders (remember; the mission objective was to obtain an unmutated sample of the virus, not to stop it from being released.) So once they found the TRUE culprit Cole simply became unnecessary.

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The movie has a plot hole?!?
EVERY FRIGGIN' MOVIE HAS A FRIGGIN' PLOT HOLE!!!!!

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