Red Tails ?


The story looks very similar, am i wrong ?

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The synopsis in that movie's page here in IMDb is similar to that of Tuskegee Airmen.
I really don't know.

Whatever this Red Tail is, I'm curious and I'll see it just to find out.
I've read from some posters here in a few threads that much has been fictionalized in the Tuskegee Airmen, though based on a true story ; but I still love this movie, found it memorable and full of poignancy. It's not the WWII events that engaged me, but more how these black Americans were finally given the recognition they deserved after enduring so much prejudice and some of them losing their lives as escorts to bomber planes.



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RT is a Lucas CGI-infested remake of this film. Don't go see RT. Instead, use that ten bucks to buy the Blu-ray of this film which is being released today (1/17/2012).

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Same movies down to Cuba Gooding Jr. Just Red Tails has more Cgi. I liked the first one.

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There is no reason from here on forward to pay to see any Lucas film. He's lost it, whatever it was, he's lost it. Lucas was on the Daily Show and said he made this movie because "no one had told the story before." He also said no one wanted to support the project "because of an all black cast." Lucas is so arrogant. Just because it was PBS doesn't mean it didn't exist.

I've read that the re-release of Star Wars is going to have even more "retouches" where Lucas went so far as to make the ewoks blink. Adding CGI to an ewok? C'mon man.

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Both based on the Tuskegee Airmen except "Red Tails" is in theatres and "The Tuskkeegee Airmen" was an HBO made for TV movie,

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RT has better combat scenes. Complain all you want about CGI, it definitely makes a movie more exciting.

TA has better acting, better writing, better direction, better music, and is more historically accurate.

So, even though RT is more exciting, Tuskegee Airmen is a far better movie.

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Personally I thought Red Tail's CGI was crappy. Maybe its because they made it look like Star Wars (not the original 3) and not WWII. There is a serious lack of realism in Red Tail's CGI.

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RT is terrible. I really wanted to watch because I love the story of how they overcame racism and proved themselves but RT is more like a cartoon than anything else.

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RT often is very cartoon looking! The CGI is often so unbelievable and unreal ... especially the shots of all the B17's and the explosions. At times RT really felt like Star Wars which is just flat out wrong!

More so RT did not do a very good job with the racism and historical elements of the story ... which is the most compelling aspect of this story.

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There is no reason from here on forward to pay to see any Lucas film. He's lost it, whatever it was, he's lost it.


Lucas never had it to begin with!

RT has better combat scenes. Complain all you want about CGI, it definitely makes a movie more exciting.

Personally I thought Red Tail's CGI was crappy. Maybe its because they made it look like Star Wars (not the original 3) and not WWII. There is a serious lack of realism in Red Tail's CGI.


As I've said on several threads in the Red Tails forum, I'm a former US Air Force F-4 Phantom Weapons Systems Officer (backseater).

To paraphrase General George S. Patton, George Lucas doesn't know anything more about real aerial warfare than he does about *beep* (And George C. Scott may have said "fornicating" in the movie Patton, but the real Patton used the real F-word!)

Lucas was absolutely the worst person in the movie industry to do this movie. This movie is only the latest of many giant steps down the primrose path which Lucas started the world's movie-viewing public with the first Star Wars movie in 1977; I distinctly remember the documentary on the making of that movie, in which Lucas patted himself on the back for patterning his battle scenes after what he claimed to be the most realistic dogfight scenes ever filmed, and at the same time in the documentary intercutting his scenes with those from A Yank in the RAF which were absolutely the phoniest looking flying scenes ever filmed! And he hasn't bothered to learn jack s**t about aerial warfare in the last 35 years; he's just conned most of the whole world into thinking his cartoonish creations are reality when they're the farthest thing from it.

The technical fallacies are far too numerous to list. Lucas doesn't know the first thing about physics or aerodynamics, let alone the complexities of basic fighter maneuvering required to put bullets into another airplane and to prevent another airplane from doing that to one's own. He just makes his CGI airplanes do anything he wants them to do to fit his fantasies and fiction.

Lucas is welcome to create his own sci-fi universe where he makes the rules. But for an "historical" movie like this claims to be, Chuck Jones could have made cartoon Mustangs imitating the Road Runner and cartoon Messerschmitts imitating Wile E. Coyote and his Acme gadgets, and they wouldn't have been any more technically inaccurate.

Or a better analogy: what would you think about a movie about Jackie Robinson's first few seasons with the Dodgers in which they used CGI to depict the games, and every non-homerun hit he made zigzagged 90 degrees in midair several times to get around and past the infielders?

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I watched "The Tuskegee Airmen" based on a recommendation from a friend, after I told him I had just seen "Red Tails". In my opinion, "The Tuskegee Airmen" is far superior. That's not to say "Red Tails" is bad, there are elements I enjoyed, but this movie is just leaps and bounds above RT.

While RT had moments where I was annoyed by how the black pilots were treated, "The Tuskegee Airmen" had me wanting to right up and throttle John Lithgow's character. I mean, Christopher McDonald's character seemed to come around somewhat, but Senator Conyers... ye gods I just wanted to shake the stupid out of him! LOL

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The difference is that Red Tails was more about them already over in Europe. And their relationship with the people who lived there. While the other movie a lot took place back in the states. You saw more of the politics in Tuskegee Airman.

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Good point, and the movies can work together, supplementing one another as necessary. Still, I'm a fan of movies where one gets to dig into the details, and for me, that's Tuskeegee Airmen all the way. Red Tails was still enjoyable, though.

~j~

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My Uncle was a Tuskegee Airman and he really talked about Benjamin O. Davis. There is no way they would of been able to go on without him. I noticed that Red Tails did not have him at the very least as a passing character in the movie. So the first movie has to be my favorite. Red Tails compared to the first movie is like comparing that movie Pearl Harbor with Tora! Tora! Tora! But at the least Red Tails was entertaining.

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This movie was terrific. I saw it when it came out on HBO and have seen it many times since. Red Tails is the cheesiest, most MST3k worthy movie I have seen in a while. The CGI was absolute crap and the whole thing looked like a video game. Was the target audience for this movie little children? It has the typical George Lucas cartoonish feel and it is such a waste of resources. Go buy The Tuskegee Airmen and leave Red Tails where it belongs, in the garbage.

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If this film is to "Tora Tora Tora", then Red Tails is the film "Pearl Harbor"


Yes, "Red Tails" is a modern theatrical released blockbuster film about the Tuskegee Airmen, but it is a complete hack job of historical inaccuracies and crap CGI with planes flying like fraking cartoons.


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The Tuskegee Airmen is a much better movie (plot, characters, story, acting).

Red Tails has much better effects (flying and combat scenes).

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The Tuskegee airmen is better.

http://youtu.be/GAIJ3Rh5Qxs

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Agreed.

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