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Not as good as it used to be


I caught the last 45 minutes of this on IFC last night. Haven’t seen it in a couple years. I’ll always like the movie, and never will forget first seeing it at 13 on TBS. But it wasn’t as good a movie as I remembered.

The score was corny, and the Abbott and Costello-type duo that Spade and Farley played just seemed too forced at times. So, I get where some of the critics like Siskel and Ebert are coming from.

Funny, harmless movie nevertheless.

“I lost my virginity to your daughter for crying out loud!.....Rob you were there!”

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It's exactly the same as it used to be...

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Yeah the OP is just a miserable troll

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Miserable maybe, troll no. Have y’all never rewatched a movie you haven’t seen in awhile only to find you don’t enjoy it like you used to?

Of course the movie hasn’t changed, but the phrase “it’s not as good as it used to be” is just a figure of speech.

Geez you know it’s people like y’all that ruin message boards. Y’all are the trolls. Always calling people out for just expressing their opinion. Why don’t you take a goats hind legs, put them in the boots you have on, and have your way with it.

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I completely get what you're saying. As I mature, I find a lot of previous favorite movies just don't hold up anymore. I'm not sure this is one I'd feel that way about, but I tried watching Billy Madison, and it was brutal. I used to love that movie.

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See thank you. Billy Madison is great, but I don’t enjoy as much as I used to. I do think it’s a better movie than Tommy Boy though.

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It sounds like you’re a miserable loser who thinks he’s too smart to enjoy fun comedy movies. Go home troll. Go watch a movie like Late Night because it’s “smart”.

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Settle down, chief.

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Well I don’t watch much late night actually but thank you for the idea.

I said that it was a funny movie. What more do you want?

And okay I’m a miserable loser. What does that have to do with me expressing my opinion on a movie?

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I meant Late Night like the new movie, but okay.

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Never heard of it but I’m happy to hear that you have.

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So you’re on a movie website, but don’t know Movies that just came out. Wow what a genius!

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Wow I’m so honored to be called that. Especially coming from Mr. Movie himself, your excellency.

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Is it a prerequisite that you must know about every single upcoming movie being released, to post on a message board about a movie from 1995?

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Don’t come on a movie website without knowledge,

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"I completely get what you're saying. As I mature, I find a lot of previous favorite movies just don't hold up anymore."

It's still wrong to say that. The movie 'holds up' just as well as it ever did, because it doesn't change. Movies remain exactly the same for all eternity. It's wrong to blame the movie for changing or for suddenly 'not holding up', especially adding the word 'anymore' - AS IF the movie did something previously that it doesn't do now.

Which is impossible, because movie doesn't change.

Don't blame the MOVIE for YOU changing. You changed, blame yourself.

Let me reiterate the clarification I have said many times.

- If something was good a long time ago, it will always be good, even after 9 googolplex years (here you can use your imagination as to how something can exist after so many years - perhaps time travel or whatnot).

If a good game/movie/TV show/book/script/musical/play/story/novel/demo was created in 1979, it won't become a bad [all or any of those things] just because the year 1989 rolls around. It will always remain the same, and it will be exactly, 100% as good in the year 99999 as it was in 1979. EXACTLY as good.

If a bad [all or any of those things] was created in 1982, but it was hyped so much that people were swept up and THOUGHT it was good, because they were drunk on the hype and wanted to parrot the consensus (because everyone else did, too), or were mesmerized by some technical/visual/aural/plot gimmick that, in fact, was just superficial and hallow, then that [all or any of those things] WAS ALWAYS bad, and was NEVER good.

People just THOUGHT it was good.

So the latter would NEVER be good, not in 1982, 1983, 199999 or even 1963 (time travel again..). It would _always_ be bad, and always exactly as bad as it ever was.

Therefore, don't say a 'movie doesn't hold up anymore', AS IF it did that in the past, but not now. The movie didn't do anything different back in the past than it's doing now. It's the same thing.



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It is _YOU_ that changed, therefore, it's only correct to say YOU don't hold up anymore, because YOU can't enjoy the movie the same way you previously were.

Don't blame the movie for YOUR problems, hang-ups, shortcomings, failures, faults, or inabilities. The movie never changed.

Every movie ever made holds up 100% exactly accurately as much and as well as it ever did, and always will, as long as it exists.

Movies DO NOT CHANGE. They remain the same!

Stop blaming the movies and lying about it and then backtracking by saying "oh, it's just a figure of speech". Don't use figures of speech if it means you can't face the truth that it's YOU that change, not movies.

Don't lie through "figures of speech", be honest and communicate with truth instead of these psychological release valves that let you blame the movie and then rationalize your movie-hatred and blaming away, when you really should be blaming yourself.

You are the only thing that changed.

Stop hiding behind 'figure of speech' type lying, be honest and admit the movie is 100% as great or bad as it ever was, but it's you and your perception that changed, which isn't the movie's fault.

Ok? Simple thing. Truth, honesty and directness. Don't defend lying and wrongful blaming.

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Are you ok bro? You got really worked up about someone with a different opinion than you about Tommy Boy, and then you repeated yourself about a dozen times. I just want to make sure you aren't having a seizure or something. Let us know your ok.

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Agreed

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HE IS A BABY.HE SAW TOMMY BOY FOR THE FIRST TIME ON TBS.I WATCHED TEDDY RUXPIN WHEN I WAS A BABY,I BET ITS NOT AS THRILLING TO MY ADULT BRAIN.

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STELLAAAAAAA!

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I think this holds up.

Jim Carey 90's flicks don't for me. I can't watch Ace Ventura, The Mask, or Dumb and Dumber anymore.

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See I can watch Dumb and Dumber any day of the week. The other Jim Carrey’s, not so much, but I enjoy them still when I do watch them. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen The Mask though.

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I'll always respect the film. But I agree, as a comedy, it didn't age well.

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".. as a comedy, it didn't age well. "

It's wrong to say that. Movies don't 'age'. They remain exactly the same. People age, wine ages, movies do not.

You are the only thing that didn't age well. The movie remained 100% the same. A movie is not good or bad in some kind of chronology-based relativity! Movies are absolutely good or bad. And that never changes. A bad movie will always be bad, a good movie will always be good.

'Goodness' or 'Badness' is not seasonal, it does NOT fluctuate. It remains exact and absolute for all eternity. YOU may change, values in and around you may change, perception may change, how you relate to a movie may change, but the movie ITSELF does not age, and therefore can't age 'well' or 'badly'.

Movies remain the same, they do not age. Please start to understand this. Movies are not people or wine, they do not change over the years.

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Calm down.

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It's just a simple way of saying that sensibilities have changed, but the movie has not changed with them.

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