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This Movie Makes Terrible Fun Of Jackie Chan!


This sort of a Hong Kong "Die Hard" staring Jet Li. Not a lot of Karate. But lots of action. It makes a little fun of John Woo, Sammo Hung. But the most noticable Fun is of the biggest of Asian stars "Jackie Chan". Jet himself doe'nt make fun of Jackie. But the Co Star "Jackie Chung" go's Way over the top as "Frankie". A Movie star that has become a drunk and a womanizer. This movie also claims Jackie does not do his own stunts. Which at his age do you blame him. Over all I did enjoy "High Risk", not Jet Li's better ones. But there were a few laughs that made it worth watching.

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Actually they were making fun of both Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee. I felt both were seriously uncalled for. Frankly this is just a terrible movie, so let's just all forget about it.

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How did it take the piss out of Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan? I thought it was more an homage in a way. I mean Jackie Chan I'm sure would have appreciated the comedy of the role (especially where he jump kicks the guy in the one scene and lands to sit on the corner of the chair, that's very Chan-esque, like in Project A). I thought the nunchaku fight was awesome, good choreography, nice n fast, and I thought it was pretty fresh.

The name is the same, but I don't think it was a poke at Chan, I mean Jackie Chan DOES do all his own stunts. How could it be a dig because somebody of the same name, a fictional someone, to boot, is put in question of doing his own stunts?

This movie is the Asian Die Hard, and I like it a lot. Surely, not one of Li's best (Fist of Legend has that spot), but come on, the guy's done a hell of a lot worse for himself. It's a great movie, you can't deny the fights are great. the plot is substandard, pretty much a direct rip off of Die Hard (bad guy takes over building, hidden guy unaccounted for causes problems, lots of guns and stuff), but I can only praise it.

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" I mean Jackie Chan I'm sure would have appreciated the comedy of the role"
He didn't. He was very hurt by it.

"especially where he jump kicks the guy in the one scene and lands to sit on the corner of the chair, that's very Chan-esque, like in Project A"
The fight scenes were made by Corey Yuen, one of Jackie's brothers at the Peking Opera School. So they have the same style of fighting. Corey Yuen was brought on board back when Jackie was set to play in the film.

"How could it be a dig because somebody of the same name, a fictional someone, to boot, is put in question of doing his own stunts?"
Because the director insisted that it was based on Jackie Chan which could have destroyed his career.

"a direct rip off of Die Hard"
It's spoofing Die Hard and American action movies. Not a rip off.

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From the film's IMDb page:

Trivia: Jacky Cheung's character was intended for 'Jackie Chan' , who had to back out due to scheduling difficulties. 'Wong Jing' was upset about Chan not doing the movie and changed the story so that Jacky Cheung was lampooning Jackie Chan. (more)



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Awwww...that would have been awsome. That is if Jackie chan had played the part of Jacky Chueng. I have yet to see a movie where two hollywood famous Martial artists acted in the same movie, unless they learnt the art during thier prep for the movie, eg. The Matrix

so sad

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You can't be called a master of anything if you just learnt enough of it to get by in a movie, especially one that is 99% special effects.

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The story was a joke. In the first one it was bearable and provided a little comic relief, which was fine after all it was just an action flick. When they decided to milk it out over three it became painful and embarrassing.

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i personally dont see how they are makin un of Jackie Chan! I see what you mean about Bruce but in films you find that they make fun of other actors eg in scary movie they are takin the piss out of sream ect. I think most of the viewers took this movie far 2 seriously just remember ITS NOT REAL!!

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and, i think you will find that Chan pretty much makes fun of himself, and a lot of his films are comedys. He is not a martial artist, he is an actor

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Just have to say that Chan does not do all of his own stunts. I am a huge Chan Fan. Huge enough to know that fact. Don't get me wrong, Chan does do most of his own stunts and has done some crazy ass stunts but not all of them.
When you pause at the right time you can clearly see it's not Jackie in every stunt. Rush Hour 2 won some awards at the stunt awards in 2001(I think it was that year) The awards came from Jackie's and Tucker's stunt doubles. I think it was from the final stunt(jumping out from the window and so on...).
However I think Jackie is the greatest

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i dont think Jackie thinks highly of himself at all. it just not nice when an idiot director decides to take the piss out of JAckie for what he is known for, all started coz Jackie said that City Hunter was silly. Now someone tell me that the movie wasn't silly at all.


he's more humble than jet li anyday; jackie suffers for his work, donates to lots of charities, ALWAYS making films about 2-3 a year.

i dunno why you feel sorry for Jet Li but im sure he knew about the movie takin the piss outta Jackie thats why he apologised.

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"Of course he thinks highly of himself, i've seen plenty of interviews with him, he can't get enough of himself, he's gotten better in recent years but when he was young he was far too arrogant, most of the HK stars are. The mainlanders are much more humble about their skills."

That's not true. That's not true at all. I saw an Interview with Jackie done in both the UK and in the US in 1980, which was at the height of his superstardom in Asia and the release of his first American film, the Big Brawl. They speak highly off the film in which Jackie just blushes and says thank you, they talk about him and Bruce Lee and Jackie (who is well known now for working with Bruce Lee as a stuntman) says that he only saw him once while they were working on separate movies (which we know is not true because he was even killed on screen by Bruce in Enter the Dragon, but he is very modest in this interview and instead of talking about his relationship with Bruce Lee, he talks about the impact Bruce had and the impact his death had). He is then asked if he can catch a fly that is in the studio, right after the last words are said, he has already caught in and then he eats it. He gets a loud clap from the studio and he smiles and bows in gratitude. He's the opposite of smug, I can tell you that.

"Wong Jing certainly showed jackie the price of turning down his movies. Seems he also takes himself too seriously if he was so threatened by such a stupid movie as high risk."

Yeah, when someone makes a big budget film and says "This character is based on Jackie Chan. It was terrible working with him on City Hunter. He's a liar and a fraud. He's a drunk. He doesn't do any of his own stunts, all he does is flirt with women and hang with his stupid father.", that shouldn't have bothered him at all. I mean, why would people even believe someone like that, except for the fact that he did work with Chan and to the audience, they don't know why he would make stuff up. Oh, but telling everyone in China and Hong Kong that he's a fraud womanizer, why would Jackie fear this attack on his image? Maybe because it's a huge attack on his image?

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In the English dubbed version of High Risk/Meltdown, the guy looping over Kelvin Wong sounds like he's doing a bad James Mason impersonation!

Kelvin Wong spoke perfect English in the Hong Kong version of Police Story III.

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Possibly having an affair and being drunk at a concert does not qualify such a big spoof in my eyes.

Like all the jokes that Walt Disney was a Nazi. People can dislike famous people all they want, but exaggerating rumors in order to destroy them is the lamest thing anyone could do.

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If the film was just a harmless parody, why did Jet Li feel the need to apolagize to Jackie when he found out that the character was a parody of him?

And why wouldn't he have noticed the parody until after someone told him? Maybe because it was all based on a stupid grudge because Jackie said no to be in the film?

I'm all for parodies, but some parodies are simply stupid. Like the films by Seltzer and Friedberg who are actually jealous when movies are made that don't suck, so they make terrible fun at people, not as a joke, but because they don't know how to do anything else.

I'm not saying that this film is like there's. I'm just saying that using the the word 'parody' is not an excuse if a movie goes over the line.

If people loved this movie and thought it was all in good fun, that's cool. Comedies should make people laugh. But I've also read opposite feelings torwards this film, making it seem that High Risk did in fact cross the line a few times.

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I, of course don't know any of these people personally so I can never understand the reasons behind any of the stuff that happened or how they felt about it, I'm just commenting on the things that I have read. I do appreciate the info that you are giving out, not that I can condone harmful 'attacks' be it either verbal assaults or simply put, parodies in films. But maybe I'm just too much of a Jackie Chan fan? I know that I laughed at the viral video 'Jackie Chan hates Karate Kids' but I saw the comments that a lot of people were offended by the video.

"and the fact he always seems to damage his nose"
That actually would have been hilarious.

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Spaceballs is also a very bad movie. For good Mel Brooks jokes, see Blazzing Saddles and Young Frankenstein.

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You HAVE to see Blazing Saddles. It's so funny.

What was his diss towards Jackie Chan again?

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It's no accident. This is the motion picture equivalent of a diss song in rap.

Apparently after "City Hunter" came out, Jackie Chan aired some dirty laundry about his problems with Wong Jing. He disowned the movie and even went so far as to attack him personally, so Wong retaliated with this movie. From what I've read, Wong's considered to be kinda like a Chinese Michael Bay--someone who's managed to piss off half the industry so bad that they won't work with him anymore. Everybody knows Jackie does his own stunts; he's got a hole in his skull to prove it.

I'm surprised he didn't sue Wong, personally. They do that in the US for less than that.

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if he can't get enough of himself, so do we, we can't get enough of jackie either wo at least we have that in common.

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Interesting..

But yeah it's definetely taking the piss out of Jackie, decided to watch it again after watching it once a couple of years ago, I don't think I noticed the first time but I definetely did this time!

I was gonna ask if some of the things were true like with the first incident where Kit Li did the stunt but I guess not if it's a deliberate diss but I'd assume there's an air of truth in it?

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"I was gonna ask if some of the things were true like with the first incident where Kit Li did the stunt but I guess not if it's a deliberate diss but I'd assume there's an air of truth in it?"

Jackie often felt that he needed to do his own stunts and that soon became a part of his image. So when someone is advertised as doing all of his own stunts, it would be a shock if that wasn't true.

Jackie has sometimes had to use stunt doubles for scenes in which injuries sustained from other stunts made him unable to do them. Like, in the end scene of Police Story, Jackie does most of his own jaw-dropping stunts (including dropping 12 meters down, electrocuting the skin of his hands on a pole covered in light bulbs) but he was doubled for a small scene where his character rides a motorcycle through a glass window, because Chan had trouble riding the cycle in doors.

Also in Dragon's Forever during the final fight with Benny 'The Jet' Urquidez, Jackie and Benny did most of their own stunts during the scene, but Jackie had to be doubled for one of the finishing moves because his injuries on set made him unable to do the final kick.

But back in the late 80's / early 90's, people didn't have DVD players to pause, so while this wasn't something that Jackie was keeping secret. This was something that wasn't a 100% known to the public.

Seeing that the director had worked with Jackie on City Hunter (which Jackie did most, if not all of his own stunts), he probably met a lot of his stunt team knew that Jackie had not done all of his stunts.

So, to get back to Jackie for openly being unhappy with the final cut of City Hunter, he decided to make a character (who is a spoof on both him and Bruce Lee) who doesn't do any of his own stunts and lies about it, in hopes of hurting his career. As someone who had worked with him, making such an accusation could have destroyed his image.
That and of course catering to the rumors that he sleeps around.

After Jet Li's rise to superstardom in the early 90's, he and Jackie met each other a couple of times. Always on a friendly basis, Jackie even sang the closing theme song to one of Jet Li's movies. Jet Li wasn't involved with the story in High Risk and there for didn't know of the many personal jabs at Jackie the film was making. After the film came out, Jet Li officially apologized to Jackie.

This was originally set to be the first film to feature both Jet Li and Jackie Chan together. You might think that because of the film was a spoof on Jackie that it does explain why it took more then 10 years after this to get them in a movie together. Though they have both often said they are on really friendly terms. When Jackie was once asked who would win in a fight between the too, Jackie said that Jet was his "little brother" and that he could never fight him, but jokingly added that he "would let him win".

In short, Jackie didn't do all of his own stunts, the movie was made in order to make him look like a fraud, Jet Li apologized and they are friends till this day.

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Actually, the celebrities didn't sue South Park NOT because they are owned by Viacom but because South Park have a lot of lawyers that tell them FLAT OUT what they can do and what they can't do. There are parody laws in the US so there are some things you can make fun of and others you can't.

Jackie would totally be able to sue Jing I think. Because while Jing was big, Jackie was bigger.

He probably didn't sue him because he just didn't want to sue him.

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No, but you said something about South Park. When you have lawyers that tell you what you can do, you can make it so that you won't get sued.

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the only way for jackie to be offended by this movie is by hearing from the director that they spoofed him,everyone else just thinks its a good fun movie

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