MovieChat Forums > Se7en (1995) Discussion > Marquis de ... Shadey?

Marquis de ... Shadey?

posted 6 years ago by TheMan18 (12480)
14 replies | jump to latest

So apparently, based on how Brad Pitt mispronounces his surname, not everyone in America in the 1990s knew who he was or how Marquis De Sade's name is REALLY pronounced?

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71429) 6 years ago

Hi TheMan:)

Im certain not everyone knows how to pronounce the name even to this day, no matter where they are from

That line was there to key the audience into the fact that he was a bit of a hot headed, foolish goon and it fit pretty well with how the character was written

Pitt played the part so well...the tough maniac guy who leads with his chin and fails to think ahead
I thought it was perfect and Pitt was just great

[–] legnadibrom (5697) 6 years ago

i think you hit the nail on the head, even brad would agree, as you can tell by that cool goatee he sported on his chin for years in the late 00s/early 10s

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71429) 6 years ago

Exactly!
Thanks and nice to meet 'ya

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

And you would be wrong for one simple reason.

I guess you’re not familiar with the singer, SADE...who pronounces her name...Sha-day?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4TYv2PhG89A

[–] AP (5256) 6 years ago

Pitt's character was supposed to be unread and not much of a thinker.

[–] Stratego (29180) 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a reference to Sade, the British singer popular in the 80s.

[–] Renovatio (2990) 6 years ago

Exactly... John Doe is the 'Smooth Operator', playing with detective Mills' heart in a very cold way... Just like in the lyrics of the song... 😉

[–] Stratego (29180) 6 years ago

Wow, you just added a whole new (creepy) interpretation to that relationship. Poor Brad Pitt...😖

[–] TheMan18 (12480) 6 years ago

Uh, yes, it could be, but then I always used to pronouce, and it is actually a BAND by the way, their name as "Say-d", dunno why really, but yes they are called "Sha-dey", but it never really struck me that THIS is where Mills got an idea of how to pronounce Marquis de Sade's last name in the movie.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

[deleted]

[–] TheMan18 (12480) 6 years ago

Well, actually, it was a band (it had at least 4 other members in it) who was fronted by a female singer, whose first name was Sade, and yes I know that "Sha-day" is how their (and her first) name is pronounced.

Although few people know or care about this example for instance, but the Russian pop group Glukoza is actually a band as well, but most people in Russia think it is just one silly lady singer with one-word name it is.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Too bad the film meant to be a sequel sucked.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

[deleted]

[–] Stratego (29180) 6 years ago

Actually, the band was named after the singer. It's somewhat comparable to the German band Nena. To me the reference has always been pretty obvious. I'm also quite sure most Americans have no clue who the Marquis de Sade was. You don't have to be cultured to be a detective.