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Low frame rate in action scenes


Can someone tell me why they did this?

The two scenes I'm refering to are when the villian uses the crane to destroy Jackie's humble abode and workplace, and in the arcade with the tattooed jap guys.

If goes all slow and blurry with a choppy frame rate. It looks like a sloppy encode but it was in the actual film.

Why? It looked awful.

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I didn't realise Samo Hung was the director.

He used the same technique in No More Mr. Nice Guy, with Jackie Chan.

I don't know wether it's about creating a hightened sense of confusion. In the aforementioned film he used it when Jackie was jumping off a bridge.

Personally I think he's trying to make the scene appear more dramatic. But it doesn't work.

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I think it was also to hide the fact that jackie was being heavily doubled during the fights in this film because of a leg injury he had sustained whilst filming Rumble in the Bronx.

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I hated it, the first time it did it I thought something was wrong with it... VERY annoying. It wasn't just one or two quick spots either, it was in a LOT of scenes and for what felt like 5 minutes straight sometimes. Very stupid IMO, all of the fight scenes were sooo much better when they were flowing smoothly in normal speed.

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That's "Sammo", not "Samo".

But basically anything he touches, turns into turd.

I have noticed that any time you read his name in any movie's credits, you can bet that movie will SUCK. He's like a CURSE to any movie, especially to Jackie Chan movies. I have never seen a good movie with him taking ANY part of it, whether just a cameo, director, director of stunts or whatnot - with ONE exception, and we all know what that is (not a Jackie Chan movie, though Jackie Chan certainly is in the movie to some extent).

He also can't direct, that much should be obvious from this and "No More Mr. Nice Guy" - his fight scenes are always over-edited, confusing, blurry and consist of quick shots that follow each other at rapid pace without making much sense. Just when you think you are seeing a cool kick clearly, he changes the angle and shows you a blurry, or blurry AND low framerate mess that's filmed way too close up for you to see what's happening, and also with the most hangover cameraman he could possibly have found.

He should not be invited to the movie set, or even 10 kilometer vicinity of the movie set.

It'd be easy for Jackie Chan fans to list probably 10 Jackie Chan-movies that have clear, exciting, well-filmed and easy-to-figure-out-what's-happening fight scenes - in other words, _GOOD_ONES_, to compare sammo hung's awful, manic shaky-cam-madness against.

But it's not really necessary - his 'direction' and his 'fight scenes' are so awful that even without ANY comparison to ANYTHING, they are just ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS, awful and repulsive, headachy mess that no sane human being would ever want to watch again.

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In the aforementioned film he used it when Jackie was jumping off a bridge.
Yeah, when I first saw that, I thought, "What the crap?! I can't see what's going on! What a stupid effect."

It was probably 10 years later when I finally saw Thunderbolt, or better titled, "Lengthy Action Sequences Ruined by Non-Stop Blurry 'Slow-Motion.'" It's now been close to another decade since then, and all I can remember about this movie is how much the crane and gang fight scenes pissed me off because the entire sequences where too blurry to follow the action. There was something about Jackie Chan living in a house made of shipping containers, and I think maybe he was a racecar driver -- but beyond that, all I can remember is horrible, movie-ruining cinematography.

I need to make an edited copy with the "slow-motion" scenes speed up, and then maybe they might approach looking bearable.

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