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Stick Bomb - Dead or unconsious?


In the subtitles for Stink Bomb the main guy (can't remember his name) says the people in the lab are 'unconsious'. It's looks much more like they were dead which more justifies the reactions of everyone else.

If so why would they make such a mistranslation? It completly changes watching the episode.

It was maddening to watch. It was obviously done on purpose but I couldn't beleive how stupid the guy was not to realize he was causing the problem and how it could have been contained by a simple phone call.

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Yup, it more looks like they were dead.

If I can mix Code Lyoko, Marvel and DC together.

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I'm pretty sure they died.
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I don't think it was a mistranslation at all. The way I took it was that the character mistakenly thinks the people are unconscious. He is supposed to be a pretty big moron, after all.

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whats this abput a phone call?? i dont recall the smoke coming through a phone at anytime. refresh my memories, NO PUN INTENDED

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whats this abput a phone call?? i dont recall the smoke coming through a phone at anytime. refresh my memories, NO PUN INTENDED ]/quote]

It wasn't a phone call. It was more of a video conference triggered by the biocom alarm.

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Keep in mind that this guy isn't too sharp. I think that someone mentioned this previously. He probably just thinks that they are unconscious. It would make sense in the confines of the story. But yes, they really are dead, he just doesn't know it...or want to believe it.

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well yes i'm sure they died but he didn't notice as he wasnt the smartest guy on earth... anyway you don't have to find too much reality in the episode, after all it's an anime comedy.... or you could even notice that the motorbike that he was using didn't have any problem while all the missiles, computers and tanks started to jam as soon as they came near the guy...
just a comedy :)

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i dont think they were dead.. just knocked out from the stench.

in fact i think it's pretty obvious. i don't know how you guys got the idea that they were killed.

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ok..
i watched it again, and i think they may actually have been killed. for some reason i didn't remember it that way.

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The Smell probably had enough power to cause flowers to bloom quicker. But I'm no expert in chemistry or physics.

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Apart from those in the car crashes or on the receiving end of misguided rockets you mean ;)

I thought it might have been a comical effect, what with all the flowers, that a biological warfare agent would knock everyone out and leave them covered with blossoms. But then its a fairly black comedy piece, so they're probably dead.

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My theory is that since Ethylene gas makes fruit ripen and flowers bloom that Ethylene is one of the primary Stink Bomb gas molecule structure parts.

Thiols (sulfur stink molecules) would be possible, but less probable given that the human Stink Bomb is producing the stench with abundant biological atoms and biological precursors while being immune to the stench and also not growing weaker (note he no longer is sneezing). The electrical discharges in the tunnel shown are hard to deduce though.

Ethylene Oxide at room temperature it is a flammable, carcinogenic, mutagenic, irritating, and anaesthetic gas with a misleadingly pleasant aroma. Which has the highest probability, but also explosively decomposes in flame. This creates a problem when the Stink Bomb has explosive missiles fired at him as he would immediately catch aflame and burn up. Ethylene oxide reacts with water to produce ethylene glycol. Imagine having your blood plasma changed to Ethylene Glycol (anti-freeze) by the human Stink Bomb.

So let's move onto a molecule that is very bio-abundant, already has precursor molecules, stinks badly, and could be mixed with an Ethylene molecule.

CADAVERINE.

If the Stink Bomb was internally creating large amounts of Ethylene Oxide and sweating out Cadaverine (mixing it on his skin at the cellular level), then the resulting toxic molecule would be heavier, less likely to catch flame or go boom, would ripen flowers, and kill people.

If the Stink Bomb was outgassing an extra Chlorine molecule with the Ethylene he could also be producing Vinyl Acetate with creates Polyvinyl Acetate (Wood Glue) or Vinyl Chloride or a less explosive version of Chloroethane. He could be producing many levels of all of these substances.

What can I say, I have a slight chemical fascination with the Stink Bomb story and it incites the imagination to figure out how a toxic human gas source could produce chemicals that would not immediately kill Patient Zero.

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Well, of COURSE his motorbike didn't jam up. Every other vehicle in the film has masses of electronics in it, and THAT might be what screws them up - the gas has some sort of effect on electronics, but not on some lame-ass little two-stroke Vespa. I guess it's part of the whole stupidity-conquers-all theme.

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I assumed that they were unconscious, I just figured it would be hard to drop dead from smelling something so intense. Unconscious seems more logical in terms the brain being overloaded by the olfactory sense. I also assumed the guy might have checked a body around him and felt a pulse before calling the dude in charge, but maybe I'm giving him too much credit, he was pretty ignorant.

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it's possible that they were unconscious, but more than likely they were dead

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I thought they were unconscious, like janderson said, overwhelmed by the smell they passed out. I don't think it's important anyway, this is up to the viewer to decide if he wants to adopt the worst case scenario or not. The story being fairly light-hearted, I'd rather think the stench isn't lethal.

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yeah unconscious with their eyes wide open !!
and the army guys were worried to death about some gas that makes people unconscious and causes flowers to bloom!

of course they were *beep* DEAD!!



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In the short story this anime was based on, everyone was knocked unconscious or put to sleep. In this revision, however, they are killed. The lack of breathing and open and pointed stares are pretty evident of that. How many people lose consciousness but still have their eyes staring with pained, unmoving expressions on their faces?

He's just too stupid to notice...or check a pulse.

I thought it was great though. However I failed to understand the ending.

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Little bit of Deus EX in the Space suit working for him so well.

I think that they are all dead. I also think it was a case of colossal stupidity on the part of EVERYONE.

He's to dumb to realize that he's killing everyone.

The military is to dumb to create a proper blockade.

The People in charge are to dumb to set up some kind of billboard telling him to stay put, there is a cure on the way.

The vespa worked because it was simple and required no electronics the missiles and tanks required complex targeting chips.
The phone call wouldn't have worked as the cloud killed all complex electronics.


How hard would it have been to blow up the far side of the bridge and then when hes on it blow up the near side. Instead of having Grandma try to talk to him while a sniper shoots at him.

The same thing with the tunnel the SDF had given up on capturing him alive they should have collapsed the whole tunnel.




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Judging by the tone of the entire thing, I was under the impression that the US Army deliberately mislead him, and bringing him directly into the Tokyo military command center was their way of killing off everyone who knew the truth (after all, it would be a pretty alarming to say the least to let the world know that America developed a bioweapon that killed tens of millions of innocent people when it got loose and was still planning on getting a hold of it) Letting the American liaison officer die was a necessary sacrifice. Presumably once everyone was dead they'd send their remaining NASA suits to pick him up again and ship him off to some Pacific island research facility for further study. You do see three fully functional and manned suits at the end after they capture him and it's clear that they are immune to his effects, so the only possible way he would have made his way into the Tokyo base without arousing any suspicion was if it was deliberate.

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Judging by the tone of the entire thing, I was under the impression that the US Army deliberately mislead him, and bringing him directly into the Tokyo military command center was their way of killing off everyone who knew the truth (after all, it would be a pretty alarming to say the least to let the world know that America developed a bioweapon that killed tens of millions of innocent people when it got loose and was still planning on getting a hold of it) Letting the American liaison officer die was a necessary sacrifice. Presumably once everyone was dead they'd send their remaining NASA suits to pick him up again and ship him off to some Pacific island research facility for further study. You do see three fully functional and manned suits at the end after they capture him and it's clear that they are immune to his effects, so the only possible way he would have made his way into the Tokyo base without arousing any suspicion was if it was deliberate.

It be easier to kill of the japanese command center directly instead of letting the moron open up the suit of his own volition.

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I thought they were unconscious, like janderson said, overwhelmed by the smell they passed out. I don't think it's important anyway, this is up to the viewer to decide if he wants to adopt the worst case scenario or not. The story being fairly light-hearted, I'd rather think the stench isn't lethal.

They were dead still the next day. This is a black comedy about a walking nerve gas bomb. I don't think they'd be freaking out shooting bullets and missles if he wasn't a lethal threat to the tokyo population.

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I assumed that they were unconscious, I just figured it would be hard to drop dead from smelling something so intense. Unconscious seems more logical in terms the brain being overloaded by the olfactory sense. I also assumed the guy might have checked a body around him and felt a pulse before calling the dude in charge, but maybe I'm giving him too much credit, he was pretty ignorant.
I took it to be a nerve gas.

The cheif lab worker even says "You idiot because of you were all going to die. The mechanism of death in this case is unknown but it could be a simple toxin that paralises your diaphram cause you to die from lack of oxygen to the lungs.

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In the subtitles for Stink Bomb the main guy (can't remember his name) says the people in the lab are 'unconsious'. It's looks much more like they were dead which more justifies the reactions of everyone else.


The main guys an idiot that doesn't realize he's killing every one. To the point he doesn't realize everyones dead as well.

I'm guessing he was a mail clerk or something and not a lab worker.

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