Too bad not too long afterwards lochness was proven not to be real (-nt) - Loch Ness (1996) Discussion

[–] J-i-N-x 21 years ago

As far as I can see it has never been proven either way...probably never will be...

They have however proven that a creature similar to what Nessie is thought to be did live in Loch Ness (albeit more than a few centuries ago).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3069803.stm

I'm just saying - not proven either way, unless you drain the Loch you'll never know for sure...(although it would be highly unlikely)

and just to be picky

Too bad not too long afterwards lochness was proven not to be real

Loch Ness is perfectly real - it's the monster that's debatable...

But why is the RUM gone?!

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[–] cableaddict 20 years ago

JINX,

read the article you give the url for.

The fossil is NOT from a creature that lived in Loch Ness. Said creature came from the deep sea, and (quote) "Loch Ness did not exist until the last Ice Age - which finished about 12,000 years ago. "

this is exactly why scientists are sure that there is no Loch Ness monster. There is now and never was an outlet to the sea, yet there is not enough live small creatures in the loch to even come close to supporting such a creature. It's simply impossible.

Also, a few years ago a team of scientist dragged daisy-chaned sonar scanners, which went all the way across, down the entire length of the loch. They found no creature larger than a salmon.

Sad to see a cool myth debunked, but it is truly no longer an issue.

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[–] messynessie 20 years ago

I doesn't really matter as part of this film, they don't really go deep into the whole scientific thing do they?

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[–] Tanuccoon 20 years ago

There has been no definitive proof that supports or disproves the existence of the loch ness monster. Even if the loch was dredged and the caverns under it searched, the monster(s) could always retreat to the nearby woods as sightings have occurred on land as well

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[–] JMaren5 20 years ago

There IS an outlet to the sea; the river Ness flows from the loch directly into the sea.

It's a fun myth to keep alive anyway.

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[–] GypsyWolf222 19 years ago

There IS an outlet to the sea; the river Ness flows from the loch directly into the sea.

I've seen several documentaries about the "Loch Ness Monster" on television. The lake did empty out into the sea eons ago, before the mouth of it joined together in a solid land mass over time. Although, theoretically, there may be a sublake cave which still has access to and from the ocean. Who knows? And I'm with most of the people here: the existence of these creatures has never been proven nor disproven, and most likely never will be. Personally, I like to keep an open mind and think it's possible. (My brother used to flatly state that Bigfoot didn't exist - until he and a hunting buddy of his actually saw one. And there was no mistaking it for anything else.) In nature, most anything is possible.

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[–] GummiBear83 19 years ago

I'm going to say that anything is possible! Personally, I believe that the creature exists...not only are the waters of Loch Ness deep and murky, but there are so many sea caves that it would make it impossible to detect it. Also, I have done some light research on this (mainly web-browsing) and I have found that there have also been similar "sightings" of a creature much like the Nessie up in the Great Lakes. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility just yet of it not existing, cause it very well may or may not. As to what the creature is, I guess we will never know. I personally think it could be a dinosaur, but since they are all extinct that may not be true...it very well could be a creature we have yet to discover...think about all the creatures that have just recently been discovered in the deepest parts of the ocean. They are living things, pretty ugly looking but still they exist...but we would never have known about it, if it hadn't been for technology, because it is impossible for us as humans to even swim that far down into the sea. This running with the Loch Ness is a similar situation but not as drastic as it would be in the ocean. Even if they prove that the Nessie doesn't exist, like a user just said in here it's nice to just pretend even if it does end up to be a myth.

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[–] damien-55 19 years ago

People, there are creatures just 1000 meters underwater in the oceans that we cant even imagine! Furthermore, nature has proved over millions of years that life can pop up and survive ANYWHERE! I recently saw a BBC documentary showing crabs and fish tottaly white and blind, swiming next to underwater volcanoes, in conditions that they should have literaly been cooked!
And one other thing. Scientists recently used a green radio-active liquid traceable by sattelite and found that the Loch's tunnels go underground through the entire Europe and they traced elements of the liquid as far as to a north Greek lake! So the assumption that because they didnt find Nessie from sonar scanning is tottaly naive. No creature in nature sits like a duck waiting to be captured, so neighter does Nessie. In my opinion there is a small family of these aphibian creatures that go back to the lake only to reproduce and live in underwater caverns or in the nearby sea.

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[–] MaraudersFan 19 years ago

I also think anything is possible, the loch is deep, there hundreds of caves, who truly knows where this Caves may lead too.

Take the Giant Squid for generations people thought it was not real. There is more poof saying that Nessie exists or at least did with in the last 70 years or so. There is no proof to suggest that it doesn’t. We know that crocodiles , Turtles and other certain reptiles lived during the dinosaur age, so who knows if there was something bigger that may have survived.

To say there isn’t enough fish to sustain a creature of this size, well animals adapt to their environment I recently saw a documentary on a type of iguana who adapted to eating agile. To say they dragged sonar ok across the Loch, well I am sure the creature isn’t going to sit in one spot for a long period of time.

I don’t see how they could ever proof that the creature doesn’t exist, unless they drained the Loch, and looked in ever singe underwater cave.

Its probably better that this Myth/Mystrey stay that way, for the Creature sake

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[–] BijouBob8mm 19 years ago

Also keep in mind that in in addition to whether or not there is something in Loch Ness, there are also multiple theories about what that something might be. While the popular plesiosaur theory seems unlikely, there are other options. One theory suggests it is a type of large and (currently) unclassified form of eel, other ideas suggest it is a type of aquatic creature that has simply escaped classification. Keep in mind that the freshwater dolphin and the mountain gorilla, like the above-mentioned giant squid, are relatively "recent" discoveries. We have yet to discover and catalog all land-based life, let alone all water-dwelling creatures, so the so-called "monster" could very well be some harmless, reclusive creature waiting for science to christen it with a name. (Of course, that would take some of the romance and mystery away....)

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[–] savingprivatewells4077 19 years ago

I have a feeling the loch ness monster is not real, but somthing is in the lake loch that should not be there...

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[–] BijouBob8mm 19 years ago

Tourists? (lol)

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[–] GummiBear83 19 years ago

I agree with several of the theories here, I think it's amazing how there are others out there that think the same way I do about ol' Nessie!!!

I don't know about you, but if I ever go to Scotland one day, I am going to visit Loch Ness and have my camera at hand just in case a certain "creature" decides to make an appearance! That way I'll know for sure what it is or what it looks like. But you know what I don't understand is? How a completely good working camera that takes clear pictures, suddenly takes a blurry picture when your visiting Loch Ness! Doesn't that seem a bit odd and strange to you?

Hmm, it makes you wonder what some people do to those pictures...

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[–] and-kungurov 19 years ago

I didn't read all the posts here(thei'r too big :) ) But I want to say that I believe in Nessy( for my own reasons) and I want to say that Nessy could just swim
out of the lake by channels which lead right into the Atlantic Ocean, also I wanted to add that last year scientists found whole group of Latimerias( people thought that this fish died allmost 160mln years ago )...but they survived, so people who think it's impossible that prehistoric creature lives in the lake or some other place are JUST DUMB!!!

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[–] adamclarke1986 19 years ago

ive been to loch ness and it is a beautiful place but finding nessie is impossible due to the sheer size of the loch.

anyways nessie is one of the popular monsters, even more popular than bigfoot who hates the popular monsters yet yearns to be one

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[–] GummiBear83 19 years ago

What about this new tooth discovery? Any comments?

I'm personally excited because this may mean that ol' Nessie existed all along! Yay!

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[–] and-kungurov 19 years ago

Yes...I'm happy too :)

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[–] ellesplaces 17 years ago

personally i believe in the loch ness and i agree with damien. i think unfortunalty it may be a disaster for the creature should it come to light as he would be hounded.

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[–] specter090 18 years ago

Let's all just look at it like this.

There is no concrete evidence to support the monster completely, yet there is no evidence to say it doesn't exist.

Skeptics are happy and believers are happy.

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[–] cosmic_quest 18 years ago

It's one of those things that can't really be proven either way unless the loch is actually drained. It is a very deep, murky loch and who knows what creature(s) could survive in it. I mean, no-one believe those stories about pumas and panthers lurking in woodlands around Scotland but it's looking very likely to be true now. And stranger things have happened-- look at the island in Loch Lomond that has a colony of wallabies living on it.

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[–] anxietyresister 18 years ago

There is a Loch Ness monster. No seriously, his name is Harold and he lives in my bathtub. I had to kidnap him from the lake where he lived because he owed a shark some money that he couldn't pay. Go on Harold, say hello to the nice people... what do you mean he looks like a sock puppet?! Right that does it, you've put him in a bad mood now... he's gone to sulk behind his rock. Serves you right for calling him nasty names! If you could do me a favour though, please don't tell that bloke from 'Cheers' where he is. He can take tourists and flashing cameras, but he can't stand bad acting...

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[–] RoyDeMeo 17 years ago

i hate this you havent disproven it. what if i said that there was a dinosaur living in the sewers below NYC. have you disproven it? no. does it exist? of course not. stop being so ignorant. of course there are thousands of undiscovered species at the bottom of the ocean, but bigfoot, the loch ness monster? are you people out of your minds

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[–] x_Captain_Obvious_x 17 years ago

Why can't there be a Loch Ness monster or bigfoot type creature existing today? Just because no one has unquestionably identified one? Balogna! Not only are there thousands of underwater creatures that are being discovered, but there are several animals that were just myths of the locals not too long ago. Gorillas and pandas ring any bells? For centuries these two creatures were "rumored" to exist from native stories, but were only discovered scientifically in the last hundred years or so. There are billions of acres of land all over the world that no person has ever set foot on, never laid eyes on and never explored. It is entirely possible that some unknown undiscovered large creatures may perhaps be living on land and not just in the seas.

Millions upon millions of people hold a belief that unknown creatures such as bigfoot or Nessie type animals exist even though no rock solid proof has been found. Does that make them wrong in their belief? Millions upon millions of people believe that a "God" exists although there is no definitive proof in this existence. Does that make all religious people wrong as well?

Until complete proof is found for anything I will always keep an open mind to the possiblities!

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[–] vprice94 14 years ago

Loch Ness may have supported some form of large amphibious creature years ago, but not in this life time. The footage proclaiming its existence is questionable and I dismiss all sightings by these obsessed cameramen and women who base their lives on the shores of Loch Ness.

I class any talk of Nessie's existence as just a bit of fun, because it would indeed be fantastic if such a creature is roaming freely.

But let's not kid ourselves into anything bigger.

I don't doubt some peoples sincerity in being a 'passer by eye-witness', but it's existence is usually only proclaimed by obsessives and the Scottish tourist board.

Though it doesn't make the story any less interesting.

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[–] fowl_mood 13 years ago

Ah chill out! Nessie is alive and well in the hearts of the Americans and the pockets of the Scots :)

And its a LOCH people stop calling it a lake! Its in the name!

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[–] Humphrey_Fish 10 years ago

OH! You scientists and your OBSESSION with PROOF!

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