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So, what do you think Miss Minchin's problem with Sarah was?


Everyone must have a theory as to why Miss Minchin was so nasty to Sarah, some say Jealousy, some say she reminded her of what she "could have" had when she was younger, i've also heard that she disliked Sarah because she wasn't another one of her clones (Yes miss minchin, no miss michin, you get my drift?).

But why do you think that she disliked Sarah?

I think Minchin didn't actually "hate" Sarah, because when she nearly fell from the top of the building she looked genuinely concerned that Sarah was going to die (or maybe that was because it would look bad on her part?) share your opinions here :D

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it was definitely jealousy. Sara was the exact little girl that Minchin wanted to be when she was younger. Sara was loved and treated the way a child should be treated, something Minchin never got to experience and you can tell that through that whole scene when Sara asked her if her father ever called her a princess. After Minchin storms out, she wipes away her tears, telling the audience that she was never called a princess when she was a child.

I think Minchin showed concern for Sara for two reasons: one, she was truly concerned cause who would want a child to fall to their deaths, she's a bitch, but she's not that cold hearted. two, if Sara did fall and die, then it would put a bad reputation on the school and no one would send their daughter there.

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me too!!!! I always wanted to see them have a scene, where he tells ms. minchin off. I mean a big long hefty speech of "you suck". Dont ever come near my daughter again you cold hearted souless loser!!


Why oh why they didnt do that is beyond me.



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Sometimes when a person has experienced the lack of affection that Minchin seems to have experienced in her childhood,she thinks she is doing any children under her tutelage a favor by making them aware of the harsh realities of life and reigning in their expectations. Minchin's tears tell me that she remembers being a little girl with hopes and fancies like Sara's but they had been dashed in her just as she attempts to dash Sara's hopes and dreams.

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I don't think it was jealousy, I mean most of the girls were rich girls like Sara and she didn't treat them that way. I think it was because she wouldn't conform to the rules like the other girls have. She hated Sara from the moment she demonstarted that she could speak french and when she questioned the rules of the school.

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It seemed to me that Miss Minchin's school was a finishing school whose students came largely from the nouveaux riches who wanted their daughters to move up in the world. Miss Michin, based on the remark made by the French instructor, was probably from the middle-class: meaning, she was no more refined or upper class than the girls she was teaching. Sara was obviously from the English upper middle class (which leaves a gap as to how her parents met), which exposed Miss Minchin's false pretenses. She obviously felt vulnerable and pretentious in front of Sara, despite Sara not even thinking about her in that manner, and she wanted to use any means necessary to humiliate and degrade Sara to re-establish her self-image as an upper class woman of taste and refinement. However, like the story of the Princess and the Pea, Sara's innate graciousness and kindness, if not her immense sense of self worth, shone through the dirt and work--which made Miss Minchin even angrier and vindictive.

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I thought it was shocking when Sara is shouting "Papa! Papa!" and Miss Minchin says "This girl has no father." She must recognize Captain Crewe, and I don't see what's in it for her to lie--unless she truly just hates Sara. But the impression I got from both the book and the movie was that she was just selfish and angry when Crewe died because the money was no longer flowing in--not that she was personally vindictive.

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I think she purposely lied about Sarah having no father because she was shocked to discover, after she'd been told about his death, that he was living next door all along. Would be kind of shocking, in my opinion.

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I always thought that scene was shocking too, since Minchin had to know for sure that it was Captain Crewe. However, now I think it was fear on Minchin's part. Once she recognized him and knew that he was, in fact, alive, she had to know immediately that her life, as she knew it, was over, since Sara would tell him everything. I think it had gone beyond the hatred and had turned to fear, since her treatment of Sara was incomprehensible. She wanted to rush her off to jail before her father regained his memory.

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This is what happens when a classic novel is made into a movie that only marginally resembles it. In the book it's clear why she doesn't like Sara: Sara was not an average little girl (though in the movie she's pretty average, other than having a vivid imagination.)

In the book she is extraordinarily intelligent, intense, and composed, she comports herself like an adult. She has self-control and dignity, and there is little about her that is childlike. She's basically rather threatening to anyone who is insecure, including Lavinia and Miss Minchin.

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In the BOOK, which is so much better than the film I can't stand to watch the damn thing again - ever - she is threatened by her. Sara is so calm and self-possessed and behaves with such dignity regardless of her life circumstances, Miss Minchin just hates her. Also, Sara made her look bad on the first day in class when Miss Minchin, who could not speak French at all, scolded Sara when Sara tried to explain that she did not need to study the elementary French book Miss Minchin forced on her. Sara was already fluent in French. When the French master arrived to give the first lesson, Miss Minchin made a big deal about how Sara's father wanted her to learn the language and how Sara didn't seem to appreciate this, noting Sara's bad attitude toward French lessons.

Sara HAD tried to explain it to Miss Minchin but the woman won't listen. She was jealous of this very wealthy child. So Sara politely explained to the French master that she already spoke the language and that she would be very grateful for lessons and a book at her level so she could benefit from it. Miss Minchin felt publicly humiliated, although Sara was gracious in what she said. The master said to Miss Minchin that Sara didn't need to learn French because "she IS French."

So they got off to a bad start at the get-go and it never got better. Miss Minchin was a small-minded, jealous person. That's why I hate the movie so. The film diminishes Sara with the stupid, mean-spirited things she does to get back at people. That is the OPPOSITE of the real Sara and Burnett would hate it. Oh - and that bit about all girls being princesses? No way! Some girls are mean-spirited and spiteful and cruel... it's up to a princess to rise above that and not respond in kind, but to respond with dignity.

I really hate the film. Can you tell?

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Agreed.

I haven't watched this in years, but I saw it as a kid and I loved it (and cried and cried). I can't wait to watch it again.

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I love the film, and think Miss Minchin was simply a greedy, spiteful woman who didn't like children and used the school for financial gain. When Sara lost her money, she was no more use to Minchin-except as an unpaid servant.

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there is a reason why people are going on about the book so much. it's because the representation of the characters are different and it changes the reasons and motivates of a character somewhat with an adaptation. in the book, as highlighted before, miss minchin is definately jealous of sara and bears a grudge against her for not conforming and making her look like a fool. in the film, it is still there but they have made the character into something a little different

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I think Sara's pranks in the film work in the character's favor--without them she'd be a bland, implausibly angelic, doe-eyed Mary Sue. With them, she's still an outstanding child, but a child nonetheless.

I never liked the presentation of the character as a perfect miniature adult, no matter how true-to-story the characterization is.

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Deal with it and grow up. No one likes bitter book purists.


You said it!

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She doesn't say all girls are princesses, but that every girl/woman has the right to be a princess. It's a matter of choice, not of financial or social status. That's a huge difference and explains how Sara still can be a princess when she is an indept orphan.

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First, can we agree once and for all, movies and books are different. They co-exist and some share themes but they're not the same. A movie has a limited amount of time to 'say' what a book can take lots of words and pages to say. We derive value from each so why would we want them to mirror each other anyway?

When we read a book, the author paints a picture with words that we use our imagination to envision. A movie, on the other hand, is a representation of the director and/or screenwriter’s vision. Our imagination is engaged but in an entirely different way. The director uses a variety of cues (words, scenery, characters, lighting, music, etc.) to tell the story. For dramatic effect or to better tell the story, the director and/or writer may even see fit to alter aspects of a story, the plot, characters, even the ending. Changes are often made when a movie is based on actual events; why would it be any more unusual for it to happen when it's based on a work of fiction?

Several versions of this movie have been made over the years; all based on the same book yet each version is different. Though the movie is set in a particular time in history, times and the conditions under which we live have changed along with our views of the world. The current ethos has to be considered when making updated versions especially when the target audience is so young. They may not understand or be able to relate otherwise.

In regards to princesses, let's remember there are 'real' princesses in the world so we know it means a certain level of privilege. These princesses are born into the role and whether they grow up to be intelligent, even-tempered, polite, young ladies or not; whether they play tricks or behave in any given way; they are princesses nonetheless. I admit, I have not read the book myself but based the things I have read here, including by those who dislike the movie for its 'inauthenticity', the movie and book seem to make the same point.

All girls, regardless of the conditions in which they find themselves; whether they are beautiful, rich, smart, have parents, are well-behaved, or have none of these, are princesses. Calling them princesses, in my opinion, simply suggests they are special and are entitled to respect; at the very least, self-respect. This is their birthright. They should realize and remember it no matter what actually happens in their lives. If the little girls (or anyone) who watch this movie get that message, take it to heart, and believe, then the specific details, whether they match the book or not, don't really matter.

Ironically, as we see in the story, those who get caught up in all the little details of life and are the most rigid, have, obviously, missed the point. Miss Minchin, in my opinion, is the representation of that point. I don't think she necessarily hates Sara or is jealous of her. I think, like a lot of misguided people, she's bought into and behaves according to the very specific and rigid rules of the society in which she lives. It's not for her to question anything. When Sara screams Papa, Minchin's been told he's dead so he's dead. Period.

It's clear Miss Minchin is human and has feelings but she works very hard to control and suppress them. She has lived her life this way because it’s what is expected of her; it’s what allows her to hold a respectable place in society. She expects others, like her sister and the girls in her charge, to buy into that same societal contract and behave accordingly as well. Her cold demeanor and questionable behavior may not stem from meanness or spite at all but rather from a place of caring. She wants them to be realistic and know while there may not be good things for them they can at least try to avoid the bad. By the way, life was no piece of cake for a lot of people, especially women, during the early 1900's. It's not always easy now but relatively speaking now's a breeze.

In her view, Miss Minchin simply does what she must to keep order and fulfill her duty to raise socially-suitable, respectable, albeit repressed young women. Sara, or anyone who attempts to disrupt the social order, is a threat to order and to everyone so she must be dealt with severey. First she separates her then seeks to remove her when she fails to cooperate. Like the saying goes, ‘one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch’. Miss Minchin (and those like her) would feel her actions are justified. Removing Sara would be on par with removing a rotten apple from a barrel of otherwise good apples to keep them from rotting too. I’m not condoning this behavior; just explaining it.

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Sara is rich but she is not spoiled. She has a conscience. She treats people how she wishes to be treated. This upsets Miss Minchin because she believes there is an 'order' to things which must be established and maintained. It is difficult to discipline the 'rich' sara. So she takes it out on sara when she believes sara is no longer rich.

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