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French accent ?? Ouch !! + Stereotypes galore !


As a native Frenchman, I really don't understand why the production chose an American to play Kevin Kline's part. I mean, two words from him and you know he's not French. Everything he says and does is an exaggerated caricature, some of which is not even in good French. Clearly, whoever wrote his lines is not a native.
Same goes for Juliette and their scene at the restaurant. She's not French either and her lines are delivered like she's reciting a poem and doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.
It is so grotesque, it completely ruins the movie. That and countless other completely stupid statements such as "be nice to a French waiter and they'll treat you like dirt, be mean to them and they'll love it". I suggest you try and see how you get treated ! :D
It is sad to see that this seems to be the image of France that this production wants to give its American viewers. Stereotypical, polished, unrealistic (down to the people on the street and on the beach - or the guy walking around Valbonne with his goat... ridiculous...) and basically insulting to the foreigner's intelligence, filling him with disinformation. I could easily spot something rearranged, added, removed, untrue, not colloquial, etc. for each minute of this movie.

I can't wait for a French movie with French actors, shot in the U.S., playing cowboys in a ranch (that would probably be very credible, right ?), eating hamburgers with ketchup, and unable to point their own country on a world map, just so all the French could watch it and say: "Look how uneducated these Americans are ! They do have beautiful landscapes though..."

Enough stereotypes !!

Movies like "French Kiss" are more harmful than they seem.

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"It is so grotesque, it completely ruins the movie. That and countless other completely stupid statements such as "be nice to a French waiter and they'll treat you like dirt, be mean to them and they'll love it". I suggest you try and see how you get treated ! :D "


This is true. French waiters will treat you like dirt no matter how you treat them.

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i'm neither french nor american... not canadian either...

but i thought this film was hillarious. The fact that they are stereotypes makes them so funny! Meg Ryan plays the ignorant never-having-traveled before american, and Kevin Kline plays the pompous wine drinking smoking french man. and come on, the one person that is french in this film (jean reno) doesnt adhere to those stereotypes at all.

Also, remember... its a comedy. hence, not to be taken seriously.

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I'm sorry a French man had to watch this film - it had to be like hearing fingernails scratch a chalk board. But as an American who loves France anyway, I loved the movie! Really, it lightens my mood every time I see it and I make a point of watching it ever couple of years. I think the music is fantastic and I can't stop humming the score for days.
But I'm still sorry for the French man. There was a movie a couple of years ago about some Boston Celtic fans and they hired actors to play the main characters who were Bostonian. They totally and absolutely butchered the Boston accent so that I couldn't even watch the movie. And I'm sure they and everyone else thought they were doing a great job. I'm sure they had plenty of coaching too.
Accents are just something it's extremely hard to fake - European language speakers can fool me because they are more facile with languages. Vigo Mortensen (sp?) is a guy who I think is just plain American but he grew up speaking several languages flawlessly because of where he was raised. He acts well speaking 'American'.
I love 'Alias', the television show, but even I can tell that Jennifer Garner would not fool anyone with her Spanish - and in one plot line, she had to BE Spanish. Well, that would have been one mighty short episode if her criminal cohorts had realistically assessed her language skills!

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Well, at least the Canadian consulate guy got his accent right. Then again, Riley IS a Canadian.

"So eager for eternal damnation.."

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Topher 26, that is an excellent comment. I'm French too and can scarcely believe that film could get away with such heavy clichés (the moustache, the drinking, damnit!) and phoney acting.

And Ryan acting the priggish American, horrible.

And once again only showing the cote d'azur when there are so many other more authentic spots of France which warrant Hollywood's attention.

Oh well, sigh, the movie was shot for Americans to watch, not French, so who am I to say anything? I just hope most viewers understand that there is way more to France than this.

Actually, I advise a much better comedy (which incidentally also ends in Cannes): Mr Bean's holiday.

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this is a movie, it's not reality, and it give france a glamorous side. Have you seen Amelie Poulain? It's a french film made by a french person with french actors who is much more stereotypical than French Kiss.

I do not want the "tag" on the wall on paris, i do not want to see all the violence that you can see there too, i do not watch movies, especially the one like French Kiss to see credibility. Meg Ryan's character isn't credible too.

And as for the Kevin Kline's accent, even if we could tell at moment that he wasn't french, he had a incredibly good french accent when he was talking in french, so i'm really not complaining.

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Do you think American films portray Americans accurately? It is the nature of the business. Having him be a certain way served the plot. Happens with American characters all the time.

Most movies play on stereotypes of one kind or another.

You really think that no one ever walked a goat in a town in France? I've been in a similar type of town in southern France and it would have fit right in if someone was walking a goat down the street because it was very rural farm country.

In fact, I live in the rural US and it wouldn't surprise me here either.

Why don't you complain about the stereotypes of Americans in the film? The neurotic American who knows nothing about other cultures (even though she is a history teacher).

And what about the comment about Americans being puritanical hypocrites? That doesn't bother you?

Oh right, you only give a s... if it's your ox being gored.

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actually gang, i think the stereotypes were meant to be in the film...as in the characters were all intentionally-exaggerated "worst case scenario" people; over the top characters who couldn't possibly be taken seriously in real life...

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I took it as an Americanized version of a French farce.

"chicka-chick-ahhhhhhhhh"

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I can definitely understand why French people would be mad about the stereotypes and the inaccuracies in this movie. And yeah, Kevin Kline's not even French. But you know what? It's annoying for Americans to see another American who basically knows nothing about the another culture. Contrary to popular belief, not all of us are like that, including myself.

Couldn't it also be a stereotype that a man goes to a foreign country and cheats on his fiancee and then leaves her? (Not all men go on trips and cheat.)

What about the rude African American woman at the U.S. embassy? (Not all African Americans are rude.)

Or Charlie's parents being a little out of touch with electronics- the TV. (Not all senior citizens are technologically-challenged.)

Or Charlie's younger sister being kinda flaky. (Not all college kids are like that.)

They're all over the place, not just against French people or France. I'd list more, but I think I've made my point. Sure, stereotyping people and cultures isn't nice. But it had to start with some truths, and it certainly makes for good entertainment!

Remember- this is a ROMANTIC COMEDY. It has romance, and it has comedy. It also has a cheesy title. If you're looking for more, your expectations are too high.

That being said, this movie is one of my absolute favorites because of the fact that it makes me laugh every time. =)



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It introduced me to french music, I love the soundtrack! And Michael Riley as the Canadian Embassy worker was hilarious! Playing to stereotype as well, but with a broad wink!

je suis prest

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Please! Your whining, petulant comment does nothing to dispel the common image of Frenchmen as humorless, rude, smug, self-important, xenophobic, bombastic, Pecksniffian boors. Surely it isn't necessary to perpetuate such a disagreeable stereotype.

Anyway, they probably only cast Kevin Kline because he's a good actor who can do comedy, whereas finding a Frenchman who can truly act well, let alone do comedy, would be as difficult as finding one who wasn't a humorless, rude, smug, self-important, xenophobic, bombastic, Pecksniffian boor. And certainly you know how difficult that would be.

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Meg Ryan's prudish, anxiety-ridden, hypercritical American character pandered to stereotype, too.

But as far as the accent goes: if you head on over to the messageboard for Brave, there are people complaining about the horrible Scottish accents--and the actors whose accents they are griping about, are Scottish.

Catch-22.


"Now, bring me that horizon."

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