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''Forever'' - the saddest movie scene ever. No contest.


It breaks my heart to watch this scene. I swear even the most heartless psychopath in the world would find it difficult not to shed a tear during this scene.

It's like the one thing every human dreads the most: when we are separated from a loved one, and there's nothing we can do about it. They still live in our hearts, forever. But that doesn't make it any less painful (at least not at first).
The fact that it happens during a cold winter's night seems to fit perfectly. What really gets to me though is that *beep* soundtrack in the background. As if the scene wasn't sad enough, they had to throw in miserable music to send us over the edge!

But one thing that always stuck in my mind. The guy comes back as a dog, so what will happen when the rest of his family die? They will come back as dogs too? And they will also remember their life before? ....that's when you realise that the plot of the movie is way too flawed. Then it becomes clear why the movie got poor reviews.

Personally, I prefer to stick to the old theory: when we die, we go to heaven. End of story.

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Very sad but sorry to say this. Hachi a dog's tale has the saddest last 20 minutes ever put on film. Nothing, from Fluke, Life is beautiful or any movie ever come close to this.

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I'm sorry, but what on Earth are you talking about?

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Many religions believe in reencarnation, it is not just a "plot" the writers came up with. The basic idea behind it is that life it's a journey and one's soul keeps reincarnating (as a human, animal, insect) until we learn of our mistakes and can trascend to the "next level". As John becomes aware of this and does the right thing, maybe this is the final stage for him. Who knows about his family, they're different souls with different paths, it's totally up to them.

This film got poor reviews because it was badly promoted as a "family movie" (wich it is not), and the critics couldn't saw past that.

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I agree. This was like seeing like seeing life as an endless reincarnation cycle of hell and absolutely pointless. It made me cringe as s kid. So his entire effort to rejoin with his family and his loved ones, was for nothing at all. You just have to deal with it, move on and learn about being a squirrel.

Listening to the black squirrel talk felt like being taken to prison or to jail at a young age or away from your family. Like a black man saying, its ok, have this lollypop and feel better, don't worry about those you care about. Learn about your new inmates and how fun it is to live in a jail. Don't worry about your family, that will only make you sad. Hated it.

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But one thing that always stuck in my mind. The guy comes back as a dog, so what will happen when the rest of his family die? They will come back as dogs too? And they will also remember their life before? ....that's when you realise that the plot of the movie is way too flawed. Then it becomes clear why the movie got poor reviews.

Personally, I prefer to stick to the old theory: when we die, we go to heaven. End of story.


Exactly. The sad parts could've been used as a promotional for animal welfare and against abuse/neglect (or at least that's what I preferred to take from it). But the whole "reincarnation" theme being emphasized and used as a piece of Eastern religious propaganda definitely detracted from the entire project.

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The fact that it happens during a cold winter's night seems to fit perfectly. What really gets to me though is that *beep* soundtrack in the background. As if the scene wasn't sad enough, they had to throw in miserable music to send us over the edge!


YES. It's an unbelievably sad and moving scene...well, film, really. And the hauntingly gorgeous, bittersweet soundtrack is one of my all-time favorites. Aurgh. Fluke packs SUCH an emotional punch, it's crazy. I absolutely adore this movie.

Fluke found his family and learned the truth about his old friend AND his death, but ultimately decided that he wasn't meant to stay with them in his new life. ;_; He got to spend some more quality time with them, but as he said in the end, "Jeff would be there now, in a way that I hadn't been." They will be all right without Fluke/Tom there, but will always love and remember him--in both forms. Parts of him will remain with them for the rest of their lives.
I've always wondered whether there was any small, even subconscious part of Carol that was beginning to figure out the truth of "Fluke"'s identity...or that eventually at least considered it.
Thank goodness there's such an upbeat ending with Rumbo the squirrel.

But one thing that always stuck in my mind. The guy comes back as a dog, so what will happen when the rest of his family die? They will come back as dogs too? And they will also remember their life before? ....that's when you realise that the plot of the movie is way too flawed. Then it becomes clear why the movie got poor reviews.


First off, it's based on a novel. The idea isn't that everyone comes back as a dog, or that everyone remembers their past life/lives. :p It's that there's always the *possibility* of one's soul returning to Earth in a new form, for some purpose or other, according to the strange and mysterious cosmic forces of the universe.
Personally I believe that there's a spiritual dimension, but I don't feel the need to be boxed into one particular religion's definition of exactly what it is or what can happen. After all, none of them can actually prove it. ;p I just go with what feels right to me.

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i luvd this movie......and it's definitely not a family film, mature teenagers possibly, but not young children.

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