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Michele Reis's character set him up to die didn't she


When Wong Chi-Ming told Michele Reis's character he didn't want to do this anymore and just before he was going to do his last job she made a phone call. And before he knew it there were too many of them and he was out gunned. And BOOM he's dead.

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yes, she did. She was actually comissioning an obituary in that scene, if I recall correctly. That just makes it even more heart-rending.

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There are two tragedies in life.
One is not to get your heart's desire.
The other is to get it.

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ditto

God help us... in the future
- Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer Space

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If she couldn't have him, no one else would either.

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Yes, and he knew he was going to die !
When he says he don't like to make decisions, but prefer other to decide for him... I believe it's about the choice Michele Reis is taking to make him killed!
She have to decide his death for him.

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If that's true then why did he try to run away during the gun fight?

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Would you in his shoes stand there stoning waiting for the bullets to shoot into you?

Surely, you'll put up a fight like any other human being; to survive. But he knew that he is outnumbered and outgunned. So he held up as long as he can while realising that this IS his last one.

From the start she has already decided his death by the placing of the orbituary. Possibly though she is feeling rather angry/sad from Leon's rejections.

In the end, she met up He ZhiWu from the second part of Fallen Angels. The ending tied the two stories together rather well. The scene from the tuck shop where Reis is having her snack and a triad fight breaks out; He ZhiWu is there.

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That scene where michele's character buying a front page space, those are slangs for hiring "cleaners." She's actually hiring ppl to killer Leon's character.

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Here's what I think.

Michelle Reis did set him up to die and did write an obituary for him in that scene. However, I don't think that Leon Lai's character knew he was going to die, or wanted to die.

Remember that Leon wants to stop relying on other people. For once in his life, he wants to make his own decisions. But in the end he fails (this is why his remark at the beginning of the film was replayed just before his death scene).

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About it time somebody got it right.

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she wasn't writing an obituary.

you can itnerpret it either way whether he wanted to die or not.

if he had followed his message, "i'm a lazy person, i let others organise for me. but i want to change" then he would not have gone to his final job at all. he wouldve followed his newly found philosophy and break away.

so i interpret that he knew he was going there to die. the fact that the message is replayed at the end of the movie reinforces the futility that is him trying to break away from his macabre life.

there's a touch of irony and catharsism because he chose to go there and die and his death ultimately sets him free from his job. classic shakespearian hero.


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Right before his last hit, he met with Michele Reis and broke off their relationship (both professional and emotional) so while he might have known that she wasn't going to be helping him on what would possibly be his last hit (he said earlier that he wanted to get out of the game either way) I still think he was surprised when the last few guys came and took him out but in the last moments before dying he accepted what had happened and relayed that previous dialogue to the audience as he was coming to terms with his life as a hitman. My feeling is that Reis purposely set him up so she would be able to get over her obsession with him and move on; it wasn't necessarily to help him so he could do things on his own or just because she was angry that he didn't want to become emotionally involved with her. You could say it was a somewhat evil act, but based on what we've already seen these characters do on a daily basis and the fact that Ming was a hitman who killed people for a living he possibly might have deserved what happened to him even if we as an audience did feel bad for him.

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I don't think he knew ahead of time that he would die. When he breaks it off with Michele, she asks him to do her "one last favor." In his voiceover, he says "I don't know why I agreed. Maybe because it's a last favor." Like he thought he owed her that much. And at the end, he is a victim of his own philosophy of letting people arrange his life. He wanted to change, but he didn't do it soon enough. Or maybe he wanted to change, but wouldn't have been able to in the end.

I agree with the idea that Michele set him up because it's the only way to get over her obsession with him. And she was obsessed with a fantasy - when she met the reality, it didn't work out.


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In cantonese she said she wanted to help her friend post a advertisement on the front page of the advertisement sect of the newspaper. i don't think it was meant as a slang for hiring cleaners. I think she was just posting the job info for Leon. As for setting him up it's a possibility, considering the numbers @ the restaurant.

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Do you have to put the spoiler in the subject line?! I haven't seen this film!

Nadine :)

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He should have made her the beneficiary with an insurance policy from his friend on the bus.

That would have twisted her up.

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Don't matter if its a spoiler, WKW's films are worth watching over and over again anyway. Not like his movies are full of surprises or twists, it has a way of fascinating others and touching us inside in a strangest way.

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read the boards after you watch the movie not before.

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