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This film oozes Britishness. Its so witty and so boho. I want to live like these chaps. Worth watching again and again.

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Love it too.
Delicious dialogues and acting.

She might have fooled me, but she didn't fool my mother.

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"This film oozes Britishness. Its so witty and so boho. I want to live like these chaps. Worth watching again and again."

It is funny how people can have such different perceptions of a film. Sure there were witty moments in the film, but I thought it was an emotionally devastating picture of two people unable to love healthily and the sexual neurosis that accompanied the condition. Lytton's death-bed recognition of his real love for Carrington and his regret that he didn't marry her (when in fact he spent his life dallying around with one destructive fling after another), and Carrington's subsequent suicide, well these two factors leave me scratching my head as to why would anybody want to live like that, when it appeared that the main characters in the film admitted failure of their lifestyle at the end?

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I agree, moss chops. I am going to look up Dora herself online and see what information about her/her psyche that they left out of this film, because looking at the film alone, she is a complete doormat. Why would she WASTE her love on someone who a) had next to no personality whatsoever. Fine, he's a self-absorbed, in-love-with-his-own-voice pseudo-intellectual, with almost no sense of humor and so little feeling. If he's using a gruff exterior or his homosexuality to hide "instead deeply held, intense feelings" for her, I'm not buying it. Why on EARTH would anyone give so much of herself, as Dora did, for almost NOTHING in return. It still makes no sense (I've seen it 1.5 times...I'm halfway through the second viewing, but I wanted to come down to write this)...and I also don't know why she bothered wasting her time with the blond guy...she respected pacifists, and liked Litton, who was definitely a pacifist, but she marries this blond who said he'd kill anyone himself, if he could, who would desert a war. Then she had the first guy, with dark hair, who she "dated" for five years or so, who wanted a normal, healthy relationship with her, and she pushed him away. Fine, she wasn't in love with him, I guess. But why waste your time and marry one who is politically so different from you and an eventual filanderer, and waste more time with a gay guy who had about as much humor and emotion as a dry wall. And then, to make matters worse, Jeremy Northam, who she seemingly had a healthy romantic and sexual life with, then tells her he doesn't find her physically attractive. Well, at least she apparently dumped him.

I wish the film went more into why she was so drawn to Litton. Yes, when she first tells him, when they're sitting down by the tree, that she likes being around him...that's not enough of an explanation. I see very little in common between them. And then, when he leaves for a while while she "sets up house", so to speak, on the little cottage they bought in the country (she probably bought it), and returns, he comes back with his two heavy suitcases and small box that contains lightbulbs. That's his contribution to fixing the house. And, he carries the light box while he lets her kill herself lifting his two heavy leather suitcases. This little scene bugged me to no end. What the hell kind of a man is he, gay or not gay, to let a woman carry not one, but TWO suitcases while he's carrying a 1-lb box of lightbulbs. My disgust for Litton was firmly entrenched from this scene forward. He was a completely egotistical, self-absorbed, self-important piece of excrement. It saddens me when people waste their lives pining over the wrong person...and she goes so far as to kill herself for him after he was too late in declaring his "love" for her.

I love Emma Thompson, and the acting was great, and her cheekbones looked great in that haircut....but both Dora and Litton drove me nuts.

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**SOME SPOILERS***

Yes, I'm replying to myself. I've seen the film again, and I'm warming up a bit more to Dora, and I guess Litton. Her "numerous" liaisons make much more sense since a) she was just a virgin in the beginning of the film, and probably/certainly didn't want to spend the rest of her life with the first guy she met, even though he loved her (although I personally liked Mark best, as well as Gerald Brenan (Sam West)), and b) it spans so much time that it makes sense that she'd have a few relationships. Her utter devotion to Litton though...I still feel is a bit pathetic. It confounds me when she takes his little pen wipe pad that is embroidered with the words "Use Me", and tells him to think of her whenever he uses it. He can use her just as he uses it. I hate that. She's getting nothing from him romantically....why couldn't she just keep him over the years as a really good friend, but leave him and get on with her life without always going back to him, platonic or not? Well, he takes his whole life to realize, or admit to himself, that he should have married her. It breaks my heart that she stayed with him so, so long.....his demise ultimately became hers as well.

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To me it says love need not be physical; for Dora Lyton was the love of her life. She had physical relationships with some men who she didnt love, but he had her heart. And similarly for Lyton, he loved her, but not physically.

They were known as the Bloomsbury set, who 'lived in squares and loved in triangles'.

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Hey, take a look at this:

"According to David Garnett: "They (Dora Carrington and Lytton Strachey) became lovers, but physical love was made difficult and became impossible. The trouble on Lytton's side was his diffidence and feeling of inadequacy, and his being perpetually attracted by young men; and on Carrington's side her intense dislike of being a woman, which gave her a feeling of inferiority so that a normal and joyful relationship was next to impossible....When sexual love became difficult each of them tried to compensate for what the other could not give in a series of love affairs."

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ARTcarrington.htm

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jean-cave-1 you baw bag

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