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Is it somewhat hard to watch Batman Forever now in light of Val Kilmer's current medical predicament?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq0xk5rLTmE

Maybe it's a bit depressing seeing the contrast to what Val Kilmer looked in his prime when he was Batman to what he looks like now (a frail, rundown old man) after his bout with throat cancer and loss of his voice. It kind of reminds me of feeling sad rewatching the Superman movies following Christopher Reeve's accident, which left him paralyzed. It was difficult reconciling seeing Reeve as a healthy, able bodied man playing a super powered demi-god on screen when in reality, he was wheelchair bound and unable to breath on his own.

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LMAO...I THINK I SAW BATMAN FOREVER ENOUGH IN THE 90S...I KNOW THE DAMN THING BY MEMORY.


OTHER KILMER FILMS I ENJOY FAR MORE...I DO NOT HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THEM AT ALL...ALTHOUGH I DO WISH THE MAN NOTHING BUT GOOD.

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Not at all. Celebrate the great work he did then. His new documentary about himself is good too.

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No because we all age and some people are susceptible to disease and illness as it’s a part of life. It’s sad he’s not the same person but it doesn’t change enjoying his work.

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Absolutely not. I thought Kilmer made a great Batman. I'm glad that his performance is there for all - including him - to see.

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It pains me not only seeing what Val Kilmer looks like now but hearing him try to talk. Val used to have a wonderfully deep and smooth speaking voice. I often thought that he made a terrifically suave Bruce Wayne when compared to what Michael Keaton or George Clooney did with the character. Val's son Jack eerily, sounds just like how I would imagine a young version of Val would sound like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH99OLzc7eU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ao3OpHm1uE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3beIRP5Cls

I haven't seen the Top Gun sequel yet, but I know that Val Kilmer is returning as Iceman. And there's this technology that this British company developed that recreated his old, natural speaking voice. So I'm assuming, that he's going to use that to dub his cancer ravaged voice in his acting roles going forward.

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completely agree with you

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No, it's not.

When you watch the golden oldies pretty much the entire crews are dead by today. Many died from Cancer and other such illnesses. I can enjoy Gilda (1946) regardless of how Rita Hayworths health deteriorated in her later years due to Alzheimer's. Marilyn Monroe died from a drug overdose but I still love watching her performance in Some Like It Hot (1959) among other films. Grace Kelly had her car crash... so many examples of A-listers who met untimely demises or suffered from illnesses.

It's more of an interesting tid-bit and a point of reflection of the mortality of man. Sure when you're a big fan it's quite sad to reflect on the how their lives went but everyone will pass in the end.

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If there's any silver lining behind Val Kilmer's cancer ordeal, then it finally allows us to once again reassess and admire Val Kilmer as an actor.

Val for the longest time, had this image and reputation for being a bad guy, who was extremely difficult and prickly to work with. He was infamously dropped (or quit depending on who you ask) from the Batman series after one film. He was a nightmare to work with on The Island of Dr. Moreau and he was a pain in the ass on Red Planet. And I'm sure that I'm merely scratching the surface.

https://lebeauleblog.com/2011/05/05/what-the-hell-happened-to-val-kilmer/

I think that Val has acknowledged the stories of his supposed difficulty in the past on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/67qzrx/hello_reddit_i_am_actor_and_artist_val_kilmer_i/

And I hope that such a life affirming moment has mellowed him a great deal.

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