Rowena's situation


I've never read the book and i just watched the movie yesterday, why was it Rowena couldn't have children? And why did everyone say that Eugenia should be married first, was she older?

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Yes, Eugenia was older.
As for Rowena, the film does not say that she could not have children, just that she had not yet conceived. Back then, a woman who was not pregnant within a reasonable time after her marriage provoked the suspicion that something was wrong either with her or with the marriage. In addition, Rowena's mother and sister both seemed able to breed like bunnies. Rowena's anxiety might have been a natural result not only of a thwarted desire to get pregnant, but also of her perception that she had failed the expectations of both her family and her society. Even today, many women who are childless by chance (not choice) often view themselves (and are viewed by society) as defective, and not real women.

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It was common for the eldest sister to wed first. It was considered a failure as well as humilating for the elder sister(who presumably had been out[in society] longer) to languish on The [marriage] Market while her younger sister was whisked to the altar.

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The book also does not explain Rowena's inability to get pregnant. Rowena suffers greatly on account of it, to the point of begging to hold Eugenia's babies when Eugenia wants them immediately put to bed.

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If you read the book there is a lot of comparison between the Alabaster household and an ant colony. In an ant colony there is only one queen, only one female ant that lays eggs and reporduces. Lady Alabaster was the "queen" ant, therefore the one that was able to breed. When Eugenia married, she took over that position and therefore she was the one that was able to breed, not Rowena. It also explains the incest thing.

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True. In an ant colony or a hive, only one female is allowed to reproduce- The Queen. First it was Lady Alabaster, then it was Eugenia.

Yes, if you have daughters, the eldest one had to get married first or the eldest was since past her prime. It was hard for Eugenia considering what happened to her first fiancee. That's why her parents weren't against her marrying a commoner.

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That is what I was thinking while watching the film, mexlaxchick...and something else made me think that perhaps a botched abortion for Rowena due to a pregnancy by Edgar - was possibly the culprit behind her not being able to bear children.
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Nothing in the film ( nor novella) to support that theory.

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I would like to go further with this question and also ask if we are to believe that all the children of Eugenia's are hers and Eugenes? We come away with that knowledge but does that mean that William was impotent? I mean she couldn't be "careful" or he would have really known the children weren't his(as he did indeed intimate).

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I would like to go further with this question and also ask if we are to believe that all the children of Eugenia's are hers and Eugenes? We come away with that knowledge but does that mean that William was impotent? I mean she couldn't be "careful" or he would have really known the children weren't his(as he did indeed intimate).
I did not read the book but the movie dialog strongly suggests that all the kids are Eugenia & Edgard's. William makes that clear when he talks about never feeling a connection to them, about them "shockingly" reverting to the Alabaster's traits, and with him calling them "all these white children." Granted no DNA testing then, but the Alabasters did have a particular very blond and pale look, while William was rather dark. I don't think that all 3 pregnancies resulting in her having Edgar's babies had anything to do with William being potentially sterile (not impotent as you stated since he could clearly perform,) but rather with the frequency of uncareful sexual encounters she was having with Edgar. She did confess never stopping after marrying William. Remember how she started locking the connecting door to her room shutting out William? In all, she (perhaps un-intentionally but nevertheless) did not give William the opportunity to plant 1 of his own. LOL!

What I would like to know is if the book provides more details as to what happens after William and Matty leave. Are they successful in their exploration? And what happens to Eugenia, Edgar, and all them poor inbred kids.

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I know of a Roman story that has lasted through the ages: a woman was once asked how, although she was widely known for taking lovers, all her children looked like her husband. She replied that she never took a lover into her room unless her husband had been there first (i.e. she was already pregnant).

The film implies that Eugenia was having continual 'relations' with her brother and only a cover-up, rare meeting with her husband so that she could hide the existing pregnancy from him.

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Ding, ding ding!

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But wouldn’t it make more sense the other way around? Shouldn’t she have gotten pregnant by her husband first and then continued her relations with her brother?

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Not necessarily, because both Eugenia and Edgar thought William was inferior in station and pedigree.

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I don't think she really wanted to have sex with William....ever. She just saw him as a way out of her predicament..the 1st pregnancy that she couldn't hide, when she said she was very upset in the early part of the film.

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Just curious...then how come she only became pregnant after she married William? She'd been having sex with her brother Edgar basically her whole life and there's nothing to indicate he ever impregnated her before she got married.

"Love isn't what you say or how you feel, it's what you DO". (The Last Kiss)

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The brother Probably just "pulled out". Its not at all the recommended form of birth control but it has been shown to be effective for couples who practice natural family planning. I'm also going to assume the she and her brother were not doing it every day or even once a week. Most likely they snuck a quickie in every now and then to satisfy their sick needs.

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