I don't know if anyone else would agree with me but I think that Wedding Peach is way better then the dubbed Sailor Moon. I still have yet to see the Japanese original Bishoujo Sailor Moon which I am buying the series on DVD soon
In my opinion Sailor Moon is better. Its just simply one step above Weding Peach. Of course, if you watched the english dubbed version, its like you havent watched Sailor Moon at all!
Dont get me wrong- W.P. is a good Anime, an amusing mix of humor and romance, but its sometimes too trashy ( Jamaby is too much! ).
I would like to know: what is your favorite part in Wedding Peach?
Mine has got to be the ( almost )excellent pilot episode. In it Hinagiku and Yuuri, before going to school, catch Momoko in a wedding dress and she makes an embarassed face.
Also a great scene: how 3 of them share those ice creams.
Never mind the dubbed Sailor Moon, Wedding Peach is far superior to the Japanese Sailor Moon.
There are 3 major problems with Sailor Moon.
1. The storyline. It gets VERY repetitive. Monsters of the day (or youmas if you watch the Japanese one) get tiresome very quickly. Even the Best seasons - Sailor Stars suffers from this.
2. The characters. A lot of them you just don't care about. Moon is a selfish brat. Mars is a conceited girl. Mercury is ok I guess but her problem is that she doesn't interact well with the others. The only two I like are Jupiter and Venus. The outers are the best. Pluto is plain boring but the other three are excellent. And don't get me started on Tuxedo Mask. Contrary to what everyone says though (and I think I might be one of the few who does) but I like Chibi-Moon. I like her honesty and the fact that she doesn't like Moon which I don't. Not a good sign when you don't like the main character (personally I don't like either main character - Moon or Tuxedo Mask).
3. The animation. It goes up and down like a yo-yo (particularly in the first three seasons). A lot of the times the characters are off-model.
There is also no sense of real friendship between the 5 main heroines unlike Wedding Peach when you can sense a bond between the 3 of them. Ikuharakunihiko mentions the scene of the 3 girls in Wedding Peach sharing the ice cream. Now can you honestly ever recall a scene like that taking place in Sailor Moon. They constantly try to backstab each other.
Also Yousuke and Momoko make a FAR, FAR better couple than Serena (Usagi) and Darien (Mamoru) could ever hope for. The last 2 episodes with the two of them in Wedding Peach made a tear fall down my cheek unlike Sailor Moon where I got the champagne out to celebrate the fact that I actually sat through it all and watched it (not in one go of course).
Also take it from me. Wedding Peach is better in it's original Japanse language version. The dub does not do it any favours and makes it to be a lot like the dubbed Sailor Moon which is a trashy little girl's romance where they talk about malls etc. The "Sailor Moon Says" morals are extremely irritating to say the least not to mention the hacking of virtually all the episodes that were dubbed (the climax to Sailor Moon's 1 season particularly noteworthy of this). All in all the Japanese track to Wedding Peach has a lot more to it and quite frankly has far superior actors.
Now, Ifurita12 wrote that he prefers Wedding Peach over Sailor Moon. Fair enough. Its his opnion and he is entitled to it.
But, He was not objective enough and gave some false statements. And I have to correct them.
1. The "Monster of the day" problem can also be found in WEDDING PEACH.
2. Usagi is not a selfish brat. How can she be selfish if she is willing to sacrifise her life to save the world?
Tuxedo Mask IS annoying. So is Potamos, Jamaby and Momokos wedding-fighting dress.
3. Animation is a yo-yo. True, but irelevant. Then you can critisize SOUTH PARK for nothing too.
Also, he claimed that such scenes like the one in which 3 heroines share ice creams can not be found in Sailor Moon. False. Sailor Moon has those kind of scenes. A LOT.
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He obviously missed episode 55. In it Makoto is sharing her lunch in school with Saijuro to impress him. Not only that, she made school lunch just for her boyfriend in the past too.
He also missed episode 104 in which Usagi and Chibiusa are trying to feed Mamoru. And also the one in which Usagi invites that homeless painter in her house and makes him a lunch and the one in the 5. season in which Usagi and Minako are fighting to GIVE their notebooks to Taiki who missed school for some time.
And of course, also in the 5. season, how the 5 girls cant find tickets for a Three light concert and Haruka and Michiru simply donate them 5 tickets for free. Now,isnt that nice?
How can you ignore that? You can love W.P., why not? But, I have to ask you again: what are youre favorite parts in that Anime?
I will admit in my post that I was very judgemental towards Sailor Moon. Believe it or not I do like it (well the 1st season and Stars). However I feel I have to point out that I wasn't clear on some points.
1. Yes I know Wedding Peach has the usual "monster of the day". However in Sailor Moon you hardly get to know them and then they are just destroyed or healed (turned back into humans). In Wedding Peach the devils interact more with the other characters. I must also stress that not every episode of Wedding Peach has a "monster of the day" (particularly later on in the series). Compare that to Sailor Moon which for about 80% of the time does have "monsters of the day".
2. This was the point I must apologise for. Usagi is not a selfish brat. However I don't actually believe she was doing it to save the world. She was doing it for the sake of her friends. A cynic could say that she probably knew she was going to die and that she wanted to join them. Remember she had just lost her friends and the man she loved.
While we both agree that Tuxedo Mask is annoying I don't think Jamapii is annoying or Momoko's Wedding Dress. I would agree that Potamos can get irritating though. Interesting note is that I find Potamos irritating and Usagi the most irritating female character in Sailor Moon (both characters played by Kotono Mitsuishi) but that is just my belief and I know other people will disagree with me. I mean no disrespect to Kotono Mitsuishi as she plays one of my favourite female anime characters (Misato in Evangelion).
3. When all's said and done animation does play an important part in anime and cartoons. Even if a cartoon has a brilliant story, brilliant characters etc. a lot of people would be put off because of poor animation unless you really loved a series. While not bad some of the animation in Sailor Moon can be rather basic compared to others where it is obvious more money was spent on them (the episodes with more fluid animation tend to be the ones where a major event happens in the series). And don't get me started on South Park (one of the reasons I hate a lot of modern animation - cheap and tacky).
As for the girls sharing ice cream. I meant to say in a nice friendly manner with each other (that is to say the 5 girls together). The three girls in Wedding Peach sit on the grass, laughing and sharing ice cream. All the points you signalled out for Sailor Moon have them arguing or fighting each other. I do agree that the girls are nice to OTHER people like the point you made with Makoto (offering her lunch) and Usagi (making lunch for the homeless painter).
I will admit that the outers gave their tickets to the inners (but then I did say I liked the outers) but that is a remote point as I meant the Inners who are always fighting with each other.
Another point in Sailor Moon I hate is the fact that characters keep getting killed off only to be brought back to life again. Usagi has this twice (in the 1st season and the R movie). Tuxedo Mask and the Inners have it twice (1st season and Stars). In one of the Sailor Moon musicals the actress who played Star Healer says she would love to be in the Sailor Moon world for the fact that she can always come back to life.
As for my favourite parts in Wedding Peach:
1. The climax where Yousuke and Momoko sacrifice their lives to free Reine Devilla.
2. Salvia scaring off the schoolgirls and Momoko comments that she fits that role too well in Wedding Peach DX OVA 4.
3. When Yousuke and Momoko get "married". You can see in their eyes that they know things are serious.
4. When Momoko stops Yousuke from going to the Devil world because she loves him and does not want to lose him.
5. When the girls share the ice cream in episode 1 (you can tell that the girls really do like each other).
I also would like to ask you what your favourite parts are in Sailor Moon.
My favourite parts?
If you really want to know, click my name and go to my user profile.
There you will find my boards "The best episode of this season is..." ( THU AUG 5 2004 ) and "Your favourite parts?" ( TUE JUL 20, 2004 ) in the Sailor Moon Forums. Read them.
They are for the season 1 and 3. The rest of the seasons you will find here below.
Epis. 53
Two hilarious ( and naughty ) sequences connected with a baby Mamoru is watching over.
Usagi takes the babys diapers off, sees its pennis and gets a shock.
Natsumi/Anne takes the babys diapers off. At that moment the baby urinates on her face.
Epis. 68
Usagi wakes up in the middle of the night. Her sheets in bed are wet. Luna goes on an mental trip, but then we find out that that was only little Chibiusa, who peed in her sleep.
Epis. 141
The girls find out Minako is going out with a boy. Rei comments that she always thought she is going to get a boyfriend before her. Then Minako enters and tells them she is going out with 2 boys ( Tiger eye and Hawk eye ), of which one them is a painter that is going to make a nude portrait of her.
Everyone is shocked. Luna says she is a "two-timer". Diana asks:"what is a two-timer?", and Usagi wants to answer her, but Artemis stops her because Diana is still too young for such things.
The sequence in which Minako is going from one boy to another, on 2 dates at the same time, is a classic. After she comes to Tiger eye for a drink, all exhausted, Diana says: "A two-timer needs a lot of energy! "
Epis. 151
Ami is listening to a song from the internet. The scene in which the naked Ami is walking inside the painting of her father and talking with her alter ego Sailor Mercury is something for the gallery of poetry.
Epis. 159
Makoto says that love is "destiny" and the shocked Rei opens her mouth from which the coffe falls back into the cup.
Epis. 168
Hotaru is watching a giant sphere inside her room in which the whole history of the Universe is shown, from the Big Bang until now.
Epis. 175
Minako told Usagi to hide behind the bush. Soon we find out why: Minako drags Seiya out of the school and says to him that she has something in her eye.
He ducks so that looking from the profile it looks like he is going to kiss her. At that moment Usagi wanted to make a photo and publish in the newspaper that Seiya has a girlfriend.
Epis. 187
Sonoko, Three light fan member No. 1 ( Minako and Rei, fan members No. 3000 or something, knee down ), challenges Usagi to a baseball match in order for her to abanden Seiya if she loses.
Epis. 194
I just love how Rei and Minako are Picking Usagi up at her house and playing her bodyguards. Best scene: Minako says; "Our enemies could be hiding everywhere, even dressed up as that technician up there!" After they leave we find out that technician really was thier enemy, Sailor Nayanko.
There. One thing more, though.
I dont understand why you always say the 5 girls are trying to "backstab each other." I didnt get that impression. I think the 3 girls in Wedding Peach are more problematic because they are fighting over the same boy.
Also, about your favourite W.P. parts: you mentioned on No. 2 how Salvia is scaring off girls and Momoko is commenting something. I dont recall that, can you give me more details?
Maybe backstab is too harsh a word but some of the girls constantly compete with each other (Rei and Usagi over Mamoru, Minako and Usagi over Haruka, And all the girls over the Starlights but again it's mainly Rei and Minako). Although I will admit in Stars that it is more friendly rivalry then anything else.
I think in Wedding Peach the only person who did love Yanagiba was Yuri. Momoko knew almost from the start when she met him that she had feelings for Yousuke and I think deep down Hinagiku knew that it was a lost cause for her too with regards to Yanagiba.
As for my second favourite part in Wedding Peach. That is actually from the 4th OVA (Wedding Peach Deluxe as it is known - there are 4 OVA episodes in total).
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Yeah, but what's your opinion?
shareThe two series' are very, very similar in many ways, but also very different.
Wedding Peach is different. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it has a totally different feel. It's more wholesome, somehow. The girls in this show do everything in the name of a single dream- marriage- as the single, major, symbol for love itself. In this sense it IS better than SM, because it has a greater focus, and everything moves towards that focus. It all gels.
In Sailor Moon, there is very little explanation for why they look the way they do, or how the senshi came to exist (lightly touched on in Stars) or why anything is anything. There's a lot more suspension of disbelief. SM covers a lot more ground, but I think that is because it is a very complexly-woven fantasy story.
I'm not saying WP is more realistic, but it is very simply articulated, and doesn't over-complicate itself with things that have nothing to do with the main theme. The justifications are simple: there is an angel world, and a devil world, which both have inhabitants- angels and devils. At some point, a misunderstanding took place (a rather lame one) that caused a devil inhabitant to rouse conflict between the two worlds. This caused the devil world to condemn any indication of love in the human world, and caused the angel world to have to defend it. Simple, yes. But also clean-cut. Something I would show to my kids.
And as a side note, I also believe that Yosuke and Momo-pi make more sense as a couple than Mamoru and Usagi. Mamoru and Usagi have less progression as far as falling in love (they have big jumps instead) and are effectively not even together for large portions of the series. On the other hand, having seen every episode of Sailor Stars, I am also of the opinion that Usagi and Seiya have way more chemistry. :)
And Wedding Peach isn't the first show to rip on SM, either. :)
Wedding Peach does have a more wholesome feel to it somehow. however, Sailor Moon has had better villians so far like the amazon trio, alan and ann. Still in season 1 of WP so that might change. right now my vote would be for WP.
The real question should be between Tuxedo Mask or Limone?
I prefer Tuxedo Mask.
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I think that Wedding Peach have a great storyline! Also Sailor Moon... but the best of the bestes is "Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch"!
shareSo far I enjoyed Sailor Moon better than Peach. I would however like to see the live action Sailor Moon.
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I like both series. However, since Sailor Moon came out first, I would say Sailor Moon is a bit better. Wedding Peach is like a carbon copy of Sailor Moon, I don't know who created it, but the Sailor Moon creator can totally sue the management of Wedding Peach for plagiarism.
Put this aside, as i said i enjoy both. Wedding Peach has its strength, which is the series is reasonably short. Unlike Sailor Moon which is over 100 episodes with many repetitive fights. The Wedding Peach's management learnt from mistakes made by Sailor Moon management has kept Wedding Peach clean and sweet. The dialogue is also a lot better than Sailor Moon.
Anyway, I hope each side of the fans would stop taking the comparision too serious that almost always attacks each other's opinions for liking their favourite. Both series are very similar, if you find Sailor Moon is not enough, there goes Wedding Peach or vice versa.
Both suffer from the same problems that hinder this sub genre of Anime.
Can't they do a Love conquers all concept without being incredibly lame and cheesy with every singe line of dialogue?
And it really strains credibility they the Heroine has to make to dramatic self righteous speech before actually attacking the villain.
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1. The "Monster of the day" problem can also be found in WEDDING PEACH.
Yes that is true. However it isn't such a problem because WP isn't as long as SM. As someone said SM feels very repetitive.
However the best magical girl anime and manga (even better) is Arina Tanemura's Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne.
Never heard of that.
"It's not about money.... It's about sending a Message..... Everything Burns!!!"
1. The "Monster of the day" problem can also be found in WEDDING PEACH.
Yes that is true. However it isn't such a problem because WP isn't as long as SM. As someone said SM feels very repetitive.
However the best magical girl anime and manga (even better) is Arina Tanemura's Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne.
That's just like saying: "Urgh, the food in restoraunt A was awful! It was also awful in restoraunt B, but it wasn't such a problem because they didn't have so much food!"
It's a kind of 'Tu quoque' logical fallacy. If it's bad in one case then it should also be bad in the other. Either it's a problem or it isn't a problem, you can not say that it applies in one case but not in the other.
I SOOO agree with you! Also, this is a great show!
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