Tuvix


Did anyone else feel bad for Tuvix? I did. Janeway was so cold when she separated him. Poor guy. He just wanted to exist.

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Hell, yeah! I liked Tuvix. A heck of a lot more than I liked Neelix. What's done is done. Tuvok and Neelix were dead. Move on.
What doe this tell the crew if, say, Lt Torres dies and Janeway is given a chance to 'get her back' but Ensign Kim has to die? She makes the choice which crew member is more valuable to the crew? The Chief Engineer is gonna win that.

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I agree! Tuvok and Neelix were dead. She got the best of both of them in Tuvix but she just coldly murdered him! Why let him interact w/the crew and start living a life if she knew she would kill him in the end? Ugh . . . she's a cold one!

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Ya know, I could cut her some slack being the 'loneliness of command' having to 'make the tough decisions' and all, but the way the rest of the crew suddenly started acting like total d#cks to Tuvix because he wouldn't just commit suicide was what grinds my gears. I hated Neelix and I wasn't stuck on a tiny ship for possibly 75 years with him. I'd have gladly kept Tuvix over Neelix. None of them seemed to try to advocate for Tuvix.

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I like the fact that the doctor stood up and refused to do the procedure. I was expecting Jane way to say "end emergency medical program".

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No. That thing was a freak. A product of an accident.

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What happened to the plant afterwards.....?

Wikipedia....

"On stardate 49655.2,[3] Lieutenant Commander Tuvok (Tim Russ) and Neelix (Ethan Phillips) are sent to collect botanical samples from a discovered Class M planet. When beamed back aboard Voyager, the two men and the orchidaceae they collected are merged at the molecular level to become a single lifeform which names himself Tuvix"

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Then let me pose a question to you. Bob dies in a car accident. He is an organ downer and his organs are harvested and put in some other person saving their life. Then a way is found to 'fix' Bob. But his organs have to be removed from the person that received them, thus killing that person. Do you do that seeing as how the second person is only alive because of an 'accident'? Or do you say, accidents happen, we move forward with the cards were dealt?

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Bob is a person, Bob died and another person benefited from that death. If the second person were killed then Bob would benefit from that death. Either way a person dies and another benefits.

Tuvix was Tuvok and Neelix fused together. It claimed Tuvok's rank and Neelix's role and even tried to claim his love life. If it were a new and distinct person then it would have claimed its own identity. Tuvok and Neelix were not dead because they were wandering around calling themselves Tuvix. Tuvix didn't die it just returned to being Tuvok and Neelix.

Let me pose this question. If Bob and the other person were in an accident that fused them together into a solid lump of meat and bone that was still biologically alive, should that lump of meat be given a new identity and protected from any treatment that would restore the 2 people?

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Tuvix was NOT a freak. He was a Vulcan/Talaxian Hybrid.

Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night.

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Felt bad but it had to be done to restore two people who rightfully deserved to live. Tuvix was just an accident.

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Nah, Tuvix sucked. He burdened Kes with trying to convince the captain not to allow the procedure. What a loser. Neither Tuvok nor Neelix would have done that to Kes.

I liked how no one would defend Tuvix either. He turned to Tom, and Tom was like, "You're looking at me?". The Doctor refused only on medical principle.

Janeway was right to restore Tuvok and Neelix. She restored harmony in the universe.

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It was another one of those "no win" situations; totally "cold" either way! Kes selfishly wanted her man back and Tuvix willing to sacrifice both (T & N) to exist!  

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Been watching the reruns on BBC and caught the "Phage" episode season 1 before the Tuvix episode. Nelix has his lungs taken from him and is doomed to a life of not being able to move because of the hola-lungs. Janeway captures the 2 Vidians, 1 of them having Nelix lungs. She gives a speech about morals including " I don't have the freedom to kill you to save another." and was going to let them go. Interesting how fast her morals changed.

The Tuvix episode came right after (or before can't remember ) the "Thaw" episode. 2 awesome episodes back to back.

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No one said they weren't hypocrites! Saw all those too!  

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Tuvok and Neelix wasn't at fault for the Tuvix mishap, but Janeway didn't just cold-bloodedly separate them and gleefully move on as if it was like having a wart removed. That pained expression she had as the episode closed spoke of how hard that decision was. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...

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