Lack of imagination - Star Trek: Voyager (1995) Discussion

[–] Kruleworld 7 years ago

Yes it's expensive, but also time consuming. Worf (Michael Dorn) spent two and a half hours in the make up chair before every day's filming and up to an hour to remove it EVERY SINGLE DAY.

"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok"

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

Yes, that makes sense.

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

While we are on the subject, also, most alien worlds look suspiciously like Earth. More specifically, California.

One of the more intriguing aspects to me of exploring space is what would other intelligent life would look like. And what would other worlds look like. According to Star Trek, they all look like Earth.

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[–] dai_grepher1051 7 years ago

I think the humanoid aliens are just the more common type because they are easiest to interact with. All the weird looking ones are too different to relate to, both for the characters and the audience.

I would like to see more weird looking aliens, like those in Rick & Morty, or Space Dandy, or Aeon Flux (the anime, not that awful movie).

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

I think the humanoid aliens are just the more common type because they are easiest to interact with. All the weird looking ones are too different to relate to, both for the characters and the audience.

I don't agree with this. People who like sci/fi like different, weird and strange. And as far as the crew, they don't get to pick their enemies. Much of Star Trek's time was spent fighting with aliens.

I would like to see more weird looking aliens, like those in Rick & Morty, or Space Dandy, or Aeon Flux (the anime, not that awful movie).

I would too. But I am sure it would cost a lot in time and money.

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

While we are on the subject, also, most alien worlds look suspiciously like Earth. More specifically, California.

One of the more intriguing aspects to me of exploring space is what would other intelligent life would look like. And what would other worlds look like. According to Star Trek, they all look like Earth.

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[–] poem 7 years ago

Lack of imagination ? Try lack of budget, and time constraints, really.

In the original Star Wars triology, to realize Yoda, they had to do a LOT of work. This limited their abilities to move Yoda around etc. Thats why in some scenes he's simply riding Luke. Tricks to make Yoda look much more mobile than he really was.

This however is much more work than was possible for a normal TV episode. They didnt have the budget and didnt have the time to implement such things.

And actually even those "just ridges" are a lot of work, see the other posting about Michael Dorn in this thread.

And even new series that have these aliens out of the computer, such as Farscape or the newer Star Wars stuff, need quite a budget for it.

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

That makes sense.

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

While we are on the subject, also, most alien worlds look suspiciously like Earth. More specifically, California.

One of the more intriguing aspects to me of exploring space is what would other intelligent life would look like. And what would other worlds look like. According to Star Trek, they all look like Earth.

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[–] timmy9313 7 years ago

That's never really bothered me as it's just a part of Star Trek. What really bothered me is when they had absolutely no distinguishing features. I just watched the Voyager episode False Profits where the 2 Ferengi are extorting an entire society. The "aliens" were just humans in weird clothing, and no explanation was ever given. At least give them different ears or nose.

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[–] movieliker1 7 years ago

Yes, I agree. One of the main complaints I have about an otherwise good program series.

Another example would be, most alien worlds look suspiciously like Earth. More specifically, California.

One of the more intriguing aspects to me of exploring space is what would other intelligent life would look like. And what would other worlds look like. According to Star Trek, they all look like Earth.

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[–] geirfold 7 years ago

Back when the whole thing began, Roddenberry said that all aliens would be humanoid. There have been a few exceptions after to, but they have pretty much stuck to that rule.

As to the planets, what would you expect? There have been several planets that were not Earth-like. Both Voyager and Enterprise showed Y class planets. All 3 series after NG showed D-class planets. Most of the planets are M-class, so naturally they are going to look a lot like Earth.

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