TWO Earth Primes?


According to real theories about parallel worlds...

For every possibility that can happen, they do happen and another Parallel Earth is created...

(Based on that...there can be MANY Earth Primes, but lets stick with TWO...)



BUT FIRST, There seems to be some confusion about Quinn's squeaking gate.

I seem to recall hearing TWO different theories about that...

1.) Quinn tried to fix the gate before and nothing he did worked it continued to squeak.
2.) Mrs Mallory stated in "Into The Mystic" that Quinn always meant to fix that, suggesting that he never did (or even try).

Not really sure what was really going on before Quinn went sliding...



However...

The Gardener oiled the gate (and said: all it needed was a "little oil") in "Into The Mystic". This action made it seem like Quinn NEVER oiled the gate before, and now the gate was supposedly permanently squeak free.

In "The Exodus" Quinn and Maggie, believe they found Earth Prime and the Gate Squeaked.



But what was the real deal with the gate.

Would no amount of oil keep the gate squeak free for long...

OR...



Did the Gardener... have to make some universe shattering decision on whether he should Oil The Gate or not...

THUS...

EARTH PRIME SPLIT INTO TWO:

EARTH PRIME V1.) The Gardener oiled the gate, in "Into The Mystic", and the SLIDERS decided that they were not home.

EARTH PRIME V2.) The Gardener did NOT oil the gate, and the Gate squeaked for Quinn and Maggie, in "The Exodus", which the Kromaggs later invaded...



I always thought the show messed up with continuity or the writers chose to ignore the fact the gate was oiled...

But what if?



In my opinion, the Double Arturo thing was never truly settled either.

If Season Five had never happened...

I always thought Quinn would eventually find a way to reach Kromagg Prime V1, they would get the Kromagg Weapon, the Sliders would rescue Wade, and reunite with the Arturo from Earth Prime, and they would all slide to EARTH PRIME V1 with the Kromagg Weapon to protect the planet, and they would live happily ever after.

But.. Sadly No... That never happened.

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It's pretty much where the idea of parallel earths and inconsistent writing meet. I don't recall Quinn ever saying he tried to fix the gate, and never could get it to stop squeaking - that doesn't mean he didn't say it, I just don't remember him saying anything to that effect. Generally it was that his mother was always pestering him to do it, and he just never did. The first time this came up was actually in the pilot, which really should have informed later episodes - upon leaving Soviet world, the professor and probably Quinn, had reasoned their best possible chance of returning to their Earth was to leave from the same place they landed. When they arrived on the next world, everything appeared to be just as it should be. They arrived at Quinn's house, Quinn said the gate had always squeaked since he was a kid; so he tried it and it squeaked, and the sliders rejoiced at proof they were home. They went inside Quinn's house, began having a nice meal with Quinn's mom, until Quinn's father comes home...
That should have been the tip off in "Into the Mystic" that the gate isn't really much of an indicator of where they are. I suppose though if you're trying to narrow down a near infinite number of earth; a discernible inconsistency, like a gate that should squeak, not squeaking would probably ranking high on discerning whether you're back home - it's basically yes or no. Unfortunately they were pressed for time, and couldn't entertain the possibility that in the time they were gone, the gate got fixed. This, as I recall, was compounded with a newspaper they read with some improbable real world recent developments; like OJ Simpson being accused of murder.

That Quinn pegged so much to the gate squeaking later though, when he was scouting worlds with Maggie, doesn't make a lot of sense; and "Exodus", along with "Into the Mystic," pretty much exposes a problem with how the sliders intended to find "home."
For all intents and purposes, the world they slid to at the end of "Into the Mystic" was their Earth Prime - at least, in so much as their earth prime is supposed to be our earth, with all shared current events; save for there being a TV show about their exploits. But the longer they're gone, the less identifiable their world is to what they would recognize; and arguably there'd be no definitive world that was "theirs" almost from the moment they left. The idea of concurrent, parallel histories would require an infinite number of realities, which each possible conclusion to evens plays out; both on earth and throughout the universe itself. On Earth, each decsision, especially ones that lead to other decisions and cascade into larger chain of events, would reflect countless alternate worlds where each conceivable and inconceivable outcomes occurs.

So the original four sliders leave earth; right off the bat there would be countless identical, parallel earths where on or more of them, in various combination, didn't slide. Focusing on the worlds where all four did slide, there would be an infinite number of earths that were identical to each other, up until the point the original four slid. The changes, the divergent qualities of each of those heretofore identical worlds, came after that. The world where Nicole Brown Simpson wasn't murdered. The countless worlds that reflect each team, of every sport, winning or losing their games; big and small, from the local t-ball leagues, to the world pennant, or the super bowl. The longer they're gone, the greater the diversity of each of all of those worlds. Each of them claims a common, identical history that the original four would recognize and could legitimate call their home.

So which one do they pick? Which one is their "real" home? Does it exist any more, after they leave and all the possible variations that evolve following and as a result of their departure? Even discounting the large scale differences, on a local, more personal level, most of the original sliders had someone back home who would miss them, who would be looking for them; and different worlds would reflect how they lead their lives in different ways in response to their absence. The world where Quinn's mom, or perhaps one of Wade's family members, turns to a support group for missing people; another where they turn to alcohol instead, and countless variations on that theme of just coping with the emotional stress of their loved one's sudden and mysterious absence.
That of course takes the idea of parallel Earths to the extreme. The ultimate introduction of being able to plot coordinates to a specific earth would require there to be a finite number of them to map and identify; which means their original home world should quantifiably exist; and somehow be matched to them. But the longer they're gone, the more foreign it would be once they got back.

I like to think what they thought was "earth prime," which the Kromags invaded, was not actually the real original earth; especially if "Into the Mystic" is to be their earth and the squeaky gate was fixed. It's possible the gate needed to be oiled again a year later, but it seems unlikely, but mostly just unscientific of Quinn.


I appreciate being thorough, but now you're just taking the nickel tour.

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Very thought-provoking posts. Sounds really grim and hopeless when you think about it. Maybe they should've just settled with the PTSS earth and have two Professors living there. It would be a lot better than what they had to go through after that.

It's one of those days...

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To throw even more confusion into the mix the longer the are away from Earth Prime the less they will be able to identify Earth Prime as their only base is past and up until they left current events, think about it say the 4 of them left Earth in October 2000 and then end up back on Earth Prime in September 12 2001 just imagine how inconceivable 9/11 seemed to us here and then greet that to the sliders who would assume No not in our world and carry on sliding.

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"Into the Mystic" even kind of puts a fine point on that; they look at a news paper and read about all the things that had happened in the year they had been gone - things that had happened within that year in the real world. Assuming their Earth Prime was essentially ours (with the typical TV conceit that it differs in the respect that the events of their lives are real and not a television show) then the paper they were reading was greater proof than anything that they had in fact returned home, but the developments were incomprehensible.
That they could later track and map other Earths with finite coordinates, I think at least makes things less bleak; so far as, there then must only be a finite number of Earths and they aren't all continuing to split off perpetually, and it's then conceivable they could return home. The pilot though, along with the world with the Azure Bridge, presents some problems for them just trying to eye up the worlds they travel to. On two separate occasions they end up on a world so close to their own, they easily mistake it for home; and that similarity goes so far as their doubles embarking on a parallel journey.

Now, just because there are a finite number of Earths that can be quantified and mapped, meaning there aren't presumably new Earths cropping up; it doesn't mean that all of the points in divergence in histories happened before 1995. An example of this would be the world where colonies lost the Revolutionary War. Assuming that the difference in outcome of that particular event was the defining difference between that world and the Sliders' home; then for billions of years, up until that point a few hundred years ago, everything was identical between those two Earths, but occurring in separate dimension, until that critical point of divergence.
It seems likely then that there would be a whole... "neighborhood" of Earths, lets say, that are separate, yet completely identical to the Sliders' Earth Prime up to and including the point where the original 4 slides slid. Things that made them different not occurring until immediately after or even years later. For want of the coordinates that qualify their specific Earth, and any measure of identification linking them to it; in some sense they have as much claim to call home any of those other Earths that were 100% identical, as the actual, definitive location. Yet hypothetically, if they could match some inherent personal signature to a specific Earth; somehow they can be said to unequivocally belong to the Earth with a set sequence of events that they weren't around to participate in or witness. Though I suppose that's kind of the quintessential nature of life; where any one of us is born into a world with so much history written and defined behind us, to say nothing of the expansive universe, of which we know relatively very little about.


"What are you worried about, a fate worse than death?"
"No, just death. Isn't that enough?"

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This is an INCREDIBLE thread. Great discussion all around...as one reply said, very thought provoking.

Thanks.

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1. In my experience with squeaky things, oil is never a permanent solution. It'll last for about a month or three and whee... squeaking again.

2. I definitely get the feeling Quinn was a well-known procrastinator when it came to things he really didn't care about, and sometimes about things he supposedly did care about. "Sure, mom, I'll oil it... What gate?" The biggest thing he ostensibly cared about but was plagued with procrastination was his relationship with Wade.

3. If we're going to assume an infinite number of realities, then there becomes (literally) no way of telling which reality you are in.

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