Later Episodes


Was anyone else disturbed by the changes in events and characterizations in the last episodes? I was so horrified I literally couldn't watch the last 2 episodes - they seemed to be from a completely different series. The page for BRAMWELL on the PBS website is filled with complaints - I can't help but wonder why Jemma Redgrave or somebody didn't say "Wait a minute - what's going on here??? This is not BRAMWELL!!!" It was a brilliant series up until those last 2 or 3 episodes - I was furious and appalled.

"I don't use a pen: I write with a goose quill dipped in venom!"---W. Lydecker

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Ahoy there!

I have been trying to figure out just where IMDB has the final episodes of Bramwell listed (It was unclear due to the two different ways the series is listed), and so I've only just found your post.

I couldn't agree with you more than the final episodes were an abomination. It was as though the script writer was determined to alienate every last fan of the series by shoving Eleanor into what was basically out-of-character behavior and mate her to a thoroughly detestable man, and have her turn her back on her life's work. What became of all her principles, her passion? It was all unceremoniously chucked.

It would have actually been a better and more believable ending if Eleanor had remained a single woman and a physician (though there was the matter of her pregnancy...). Again, I'm mystified as to why the series ended with a great big middle finger displayed to the audience.

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I really didn't like those last two episodes either. I agree it really was very different from the show that I had grown to love. Masterpiece Theatre also had the numbers of the seasons rearranged here in the US, and I had missed much of "season 4 & 5" (which now it turns out was actually season 3). So when I bought the VHS tapes, I got The first set "1&2" and then the next set "3" and then on DVD "4" turned out to be the final two movies that I never liked. I'm so glad the other seasons have finally come out on DVD so I can see all those episodes that I missed.

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I totally agree. I adored this series until the 4th one and your just thinking "Is this the same character?" Eleanor would have never gone back to that horrid Army man and had sex in a fit of passion that she knew could possibly get her pregnant and trap her into the life that she rejected from him in the first season!
Why would she thought that would have changed. I can see wrapping up the series for her getting married, having a kid or whatever, but it just seemed like it abandoned her ideals and character that we all came to love about her. So disaapointed! I think I'll just do like I did with the last North and South season and just pretend it doesn't exist.

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chiming in late here ... can't agree more with what previous posters have said. The change in the final installments were utterly bizarre, and they did seem calculated to betray the characters and the audience.

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When I started watching the final series on DVD (season 4 here in America - season 6 in the UK), I had to re-read the box to make sure I hadn't gotten the discs out of order! The change in everything was so jarring, from a completely different looking Thrift, to the inclusion of Tom, the disappearance of Sydney, and the strange, strange, STRANGE jerky camera technique! It's as if the director wanted to "jazz up" the production to appeal to the kiddies. I almost felt sea-sick after watching it.

Eleanor was always a bit different, but in the last 2 episodes she came off as near-hysterical (thank God Dr. Marsham didn't recommend a hysterectomy!).

I would like to see a follow-up now 12 years later. Maybe she could be a doctor in a small village on the eve of WWI...

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I have just watched these episodes and I agree. The show had a completely different character and feel. Maybe the writers wanted to reflect the changing times, and the fact that a new, exciting century was upon us (the Boer War ran from 1899 - 1902) but I found it all rather bemusing. The ending, with Eleanor's professional failure and expedient marriage, was flat and disappointing.

The absence of Robert, Alice, Kate and Sydney was key, in that I don't think that even the strongest show can cope with such a significant cast change.

I also didn't understand how Eleanor could be vulnerable enough to be sacked (presumably, an intelligent woman such as she would never have handed over that amount of power to Mrs Bruce when the latter joined the venture) and why the juvenile prostitution incident made such an impact; surely an East End doctor would have become accustomed to seeing underage callgirls over a 4 year period? And all of them would have been sent away eventually. I disliked the way in which Eleanor was portrayed as fragile and unfocused.

That said, it would be very interesting if the show were to be reprised, with a WW1/1920s backdrop. Eleanor's offspring would be a young adult, so could be handed some strong war and Roaring Twenties storylines, with an ageing Eleanor trying to come to terms with the new order of things.

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Wow, I have only just finished the next to last episode, the one in which Eleanor is replused by Marsham and attracted to the officer. I was stunned at the change in her character! What were the writers thinking? Also, the sudden absence of her father and Alice and especially Kate, to whom Eleanor had implied would go with her as her ladies maid when she left her Father's home, left gaps in the story. Oh my, as much as I had enjoyed the series up to this point, I was quite put off.

As for her relationship with Dr. Marsham, it had appeared that she had matured to being able to recognize what a good and decent man he was and what an equal match they would make. I found him very attractive and tender, highly intelligent and kind, albeit inclined to display temper when he saw injustice.

I will watch the last episode, but I have a feeling it is going to be a further disappointment.

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I agree that the camera techniques and lighting weredisconcerting in the last episodes. However, I do think that even a woman of Bramwell's pluck and determination can suddenly meet the eyes of a stranger and give up everything for that promise. David Bark-Jones was at his most beautiful moment here, and I certainly would have fallen for him. And even militant feminists can become tired of fighting the fight for everyone else. Her biological clock was stomping like Marisa Tomei's in My Cousin Vinny. Maybe as much as we hate it, biology is destiny.

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I don't think anyone is going to read this but I just need to vent.

Loved the show up until the last 2 episodes. I really wish I had just stopped as my wish for the series came true Dr. Marsham proposing to Eleanor. I knew from the first episode he loved her and was estatic when he finally proposed. Of course those who have watched the last 2 episodes know where that went :(

Stupid me decided to watch the last 2 episodes and now I'm really angry. As someone else said this is not Bramwell! I can see how the writers would want to bring up certain things like the war but it was too much, way to drastic.
I agree the camera techniques and lighting were poor. I thought scenes were too dark.

Also Kate and Sydney my two favorite minor characters disappeared. I want to know if Kate become a lady maid and what happened to Sydney. I always thought Sydney would end up staying with Nurse Carr, sort of her adopted son.

Ugh so disappointed.

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We really enjoyed the first three seasons, but after reading all this, and watching some of the fourth season on Netflix streaming, we decided to just pretend it only had three seasons.

What bugged me most was the changes in the main character. Seemed to lose the original point of the whole series. Instead of a strong, flawed female doctor set on practicing medicine where it's most needed in a male-dominated world, we get an irrational, dishonest soap opera victim.



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I just finished the fourth series on netflix and have to agree that the changes in Eleanor were extreme. She made a fool of herself at the Jubilee party which was cringe-worthy and difficult to watch. I really didn't see why the writer made her become so weak and scattered. I can tell from the description and your comments that the last two episodes are not worth watching. What a waste and disappointment to a great show. I also would have actually liked to see her an Finn make it rather than him turning into such an opportunist.

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And why did the Major loose his moustache in the last few scenes?

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