Why does Quentin Tarantino deny that he has never seen City on Fire? It is very obvious after watching this film that Reservoir Dogs was a rip of City on Fire. It is like Mark Mcguire denying that he used steroids. The more he denies it the stupider he looks.
shareHey nick, stop posting this everywhere. Tarantino openly admits that COF inspired him. The 2 movies are very different, QT borrowed some scenes thats all. There is nothing wrong with borrowing from a movie you like. I will admit it is a little heavy in this case and personally I would have talked to Ringo "super hack" Lam and got his blessing before I did something like that but thats just me. If he did steal the entire movie or even a large portion of it the studio who did COF would have sued.
And McGuire openly admits to taking andro which was completly within the rules of baseball at the time. He may have done steroids as well but thats all speculation, there is no evidence that supports that claim.
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"There is nothing wrong with borrowing from a movie you like."
You are wrong. Borrow means to take possesion of the something that is not yours, with the intention of giving it back.
Tarantino stole it.
Furthermore, Tarantino has already admitted that the steals.
" I steal from every movie ever made"
Quentin Tarantino
"Furthermore, Tarantino has already admitted that the steals.
" I steal from every movie ever made""
That's taken well out of context, isn't it? Or are your English comprehension skills lacking?
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Of course he steals from other movies. Before the advent of the Internet and the availabilty to buy foreign movies easily, the only way you could see a lot of these obscure movies is on video. And a lot of these movies you could not get at the Wherehouse or Blockbuster. So he took a lot from asian cinema and the old movies of the 70s that the people in the 90s did not see. So his ideas and shots were hailed as clever and original because few people saw the movies that he stole from.
Tarantino was a product of a time and a place. Could you imagine Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction if there was an IMDB to discuss those? These movies would be hacked apart instantly for all the things that were stolen from other movies.
But in the early 90s the internet was still in its infancy, and few people heard of Chow Yun Fat or John Woo. But Quentin spent years bored at the video store and he got to watch all those movies and "borrow" from them.
But that aside, I think that Quentin is one of the first mainstream "DJ" directors. I haven't really studied post modern art etc, to be able to explain my thoughts on it clearly, but just like a DJ takes already made songs and mixes them into a unique musical product, so do directors like Tarantino take already made up scenes, plots, dialogue and shots and remixes them into a unitque product. Kill Bill was a copy of scores of movies and genres, but Tarantino "mixed" them into something new and interesting.
i couldn't have said it better myself.
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Well said, Gwailo. That's a very intersting way of putting it.
share"If there's something to steal, I steal it."
- Pablo Picasso
As I've said before, if Tarantino admits he steals, that's commendable, but
that doesn't make him talented.
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Its hard to see as many films as Tarantino did(he worked at a video store after all) and not be influenced by them. I dont think Tarantino has ever denied that he takes lines and ideas from other films.
I think Tarantino does an amazing job of taking ideas from other films, and then changing and expanding upon them. Tarantinos strong suit seems to be dialogue, his films all have a very recognizable wit and although it is true plots and scenes from his films draw heavily from various others, the dialogue is highly original and, in my opinion, very well crafted.
Say for example you, or perhaps Mr.Mike White were given the opportunity to "recreate" City on Fire. would that film be as highly regarded as Tarantinos? would it now be considered a true classic in the crime genre? would it be #70 on imdb's 250 greatest list? While I admit Im not familiar with Whites writing, nor am I with any writing you may have done, but I would highly doubt you could measure up to what Quentin has accomplished.
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Is there a director out there that doesn't take stuff from other movies? If you've ever made a movie you know the awnser is no...
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The line between plagerism and inspiration are very thin my friend. Someone sees something and goes hey lets do a movie on a bank hiest! Inspiration, they make a movie about a bank hiest as thier are many (Heat, Point Break, Dog Day Afternoon) If someone came around tommarow and had guys in masks (PB) using Ak'47's (HT) to fund an operation (DDA, doesnt have to be a sex change operation) he can make the movie. Even if they have seen those movie's. I can guarentee u many movie directors decided to make movies after seeing one they enjoyed. Those kinds of movies will stick in the back of thier mind as thier making them. If his characters were named Mr. Fu and so on. Ya that's stealing the movie. A portion of this website called "Ask A Filmmaker" did a piece on it. John August wrote about ripping off Seven Samurai and using it as inspiration.
"We grow weed....We arent mercenaries." ~ Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
I dont mind that much he borrows from other films he makes the themes and scenes his own. I do think JACKIE BROWN was his best and the one film where most of the material was from a book and not other films, although there are still film references. The title for instance.
The only thing that annoys me about Tarantino is the way he claims to be a fan of every film ever made and that he is the biggest fan of whichever film he is claiming is his favourite at that time.
Still he is a pretty good director although he isnt one of my favourites. His films are quite enjoyable and I think City on Fire and Resivour Dogs are equally good films.
Mike Whites films are good for pointing these things out but he doesnt seem to be making these things known and having a sense of humour and irony about it. It does seem to be just vindictiveness and jealousy. Even non big film fans knew Tarantino stole. But why just target him. All these big remakes out now (such as the Omen) have stolen. They just do it under the name remake. I dont think there are many new ideas out there.
And people such as Speilberg have stolen from other lesser known foreign films as well. Project A and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade have a very similar chase sequence in. But no one seems to mention that.
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People, People, People........
Look at this the proper way would you.
Take for example, sliced Bread. The person who first marketed sliced bread did not invent bread. And he surely didnt make slicing. He took the two ideas and brought them together in a new light and we are VERY MUCH better off for that. It is the same case with Tarantino although in his movies, the dialogues and the action sequences are different.
You must appreciate his movies for what they are - works of art. Brutal, yes but art none-the-less.
I mean, you wouldn't call getting the idea for building planes stolen from birds would you??
"I mean, you wouldn't call getting the idea for building planes stolen from birds would you??"
Yes. Yes, I would. The Wrights were such hacks; the truth is that A LOT of people had made planes before them. (Although it's perfectly true, note the
sarcasm)
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sharehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism
shareThey key to becoming a good writer is to steal some from some other writers, The key to becoming a great writer is to steal alot from many other writers.
shareWhatever you think of the two films, I think RD goes beyond "inspiration". It's a remake.
shareHow is it a remake? The link between the two films is tenuous at best. In fact, there are far greater similarities between Scorsese's Goodfellas and his later film Casino. Would you say, by this rationale, that Casino was a re-make of Goodfellas?
shareI've seen both COF and RD and they both kick ass in their own right. I'd even go as far as to say I enjoyed RD a lot more. That, for me, is the bottomline. As long as someone takes an assortment of stuff and makes it better, it is praiseworthy.
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